Don’t get your knickers in a twist Vanessa Alexis. Nothing has been deleted.
That’s great humour, (I also love Monty Python.)
Vanessa, by the way, was a girlfriend of mine, many years ago. I thought that fits a good looking TBM pilot. You should get over that, it was not meant to keep you busy for so long.
Back to the topic:
I have heard “Radar Contact” in Germany, Austria, CZ and I think in Croatia and in France too. It would be strange if German ATC used “nonstandard phrases” regularly.
Establishing radar contact doesn’t have anything with airspace. On the rare occasions that I’ve been unsure of being cleared into airspace that requires a clearance, I’ve asked ATC to confirm (or retract) the clearance explicitly.
Alexis wrote:
“Radar Contact” is standard phraseology, IMHO
Indeed, just it’s defined meaning is not “we see you on the radar and you can enter controlled airspace”, but simply “we see you on the radar”. So it’s non-standard when used in the former meaning.
RADAR contact is standard IMHO but has nothing to do with being cleared. It is the equivalent of being identified by a RADAR controller based on location, altitude and squawk.
Exactly, I missed that, of course “radar contact” is no clearance. It only means that they see you!
So funny! The type of subtle British humour I love.
Peter wrote:
Class E is CAS for IFR and OCAS for VFR.I feel like battling windmills sometimes, but nevertheless…VMC is when you are not in cloud. IMC is when you are in cloud.
VFR is when you are not supposed to be in cloud (but if you are, nobody knows).
Class E is CAS no matter if you are VFR or IFR, but you don’t need a clearance if VFR. The distinction between CAS and OCAS is important because it affects the VMC minima.
VMC is when you have sufficient flight visibility and sufficient distance to cloud. Both depend on the situation, including the CAS/OCAS distinction. You can certainly not be in cloud and still be in IMC.
