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CTOT - ATC staffing

Hello,
am I the only one getting more and more CTOT slots? It feel like it is going up exponentially. Yesterday we got this massive one:

Departure aerodrome: LDZD
Destination aerodrome: EDAZ
Estimated off block time (EOBT): 2018-07-22 10:35Z
Slot time (CTOT): 1313Z

The slot is due to the following regulations:
- LONE1222
- LOW1222
- LOS1522M

The following cause was given:
- enroute phase: ATC staffing

I ended up cancelling that plan and filed a new routing avoiding Austria ATC alltogether with allowed us to take off immediately.

www.ing-golze.de
EDAZ

To answer your question basically : yes.

Now regarding your CTOT :
You filed a first FPL the day before with EOBT 1300
Yesterday, you cancelled your FPL at 10:22:05 and refiled a new FPL with a new EOBT at 1035.
Filing a flight plan less than 3 hours before EOBT gave you a “late filer” status and makes you go to the end of the queue.

That’s why the CTOT is ugly.

If you filed the right EOBT in the first place, the CTOT would have been “nicer”.

Last Edited by Guillaume at 23 Jul 11:53

It’s summertime and the living is not easy

LDZA LDVA, Croatia

Adding to that – this looks like the affected sectors were at 100% capacity at least until your original estimated time of transit. So when you cancelled and re-filed for earlier, there was no room and you pretty much got the original time, which your cancellation had just freed up. In a sense, you were lucky that nobody else got in, I don’t think it is held “open”, people up the chain could have snatched it for a slot improvement.

Biggin Hill

Last 5 flights transiting through Lyon Airspace have all had slots. Coming back from Corsica LFKC today I had filed for 1400z. Got a slot for 16.22z which would have gotten me into LFHN past the darkness. Made that point to the tower who got on the phone and got me airborne by 14.00z. Strange world and hoping these slots don’t persist or become the norm.

LFHN - Bellegarde - Vouvray France

Slots like this are very local. I have had fewer CTOTs recently.

EGTK Oxford

What is the reason for the slots?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

They seem to always be because of Lyon Airspace, anything transitioning their zone has been delayed. When talking to the tower in Calvi, I explained to them I wouldn’t be able to get into LFHN (there is no runway lighting and we’re stuck to the side of a mountain, not a great combination :-))
Calvi Tower called Bastia for me and they negotiated (I assume with Eurocontrol?) They then asked me (after roughly 15 mins) if I was ready for immediate departure, which I was – and gave me the “slot no longer applies” message. When I thanked them, they told me to thank Lyon airspace…

LFHN - Bellegarde - Vouvray France

Most of the CTOTs I have had down there were due to industrial action by ATC. One solution is to file a VFR leg through the affected region; this brings various issues e.g. VRPs, limited altitudes, the need to be VMC prevents effective wx avoidance. A routing around it is another (if you have fuel and time, and you might get a CTOT on that route too because everybody else is doing the same).

The challenge is that you need to see the size of the region. The Eurocontrol website has a map – see below. Doing this job against the clock when trying to get somewhere and you have just a phone is not easy; I recall one instance in 2017 when I ended up losing so much time I had to divert and it cost me hundreds extra and a load of hassle.

But maximising hassle and pain is the exact purpose of industrial action As one guy involved in Eurocontrol autorouting said to me: the whole point of a CTOT is to maximise pain. It keeps you grounded while you sit there tearing your hair out about whether you will need to check yourself and passengers into a hotel for the night.

A week ago we were sitting in the ground at Innsbruck with the BA plane delayed by 2hrs due to a faulty gear microswitch. That 2hr delay was “ok” for us because we had a car parked at Gatwick, but for many people on the flight it was a disaster. They missed the last train somewhere, many had to go into hotels, and because the delay was less than x hrs they were not getting the compensation. Imagine doing this with a whole family, with kids…

The general thread on how to beat these industrial action related CTOTs is here.

This is a previous discussion on this topic, and the Eurocontrol map is shown there. It is here and it is on the right (Current Network Situation). It is very small but if you click on Static Map you get a zoomable version

That page also has a validation gateway, under Flight Planning / Free Text Editor etc.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

@Peter
This is complete nonsense. There was no industrial action yesterday.

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