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Euro reg to N reg transfer / FAA DAR discussion

Thanks, I have considered that but it looks like flying across the pond will set me up more then 25K$ including the risks.

No way it costs that unless you have a Citation as a support vehicle.

EGTK Oxford

Julian on here will do a ferry for a lot less than that.

I would never take the wings off any half decent plane, because unless it is put back together by a specialist, it will never fly straight again - I've been told by one engineer who re-assembled many crated ones. People then ending up fiddling with the aileron trim tabs to keep it flying straight with the ball in the middle and the ailerons neutral... losing a few kt and nobody can explain it.

Also, buying from the USA is an opportunity to get avionics work done for a fraction of the European cost. There are some cowboys there however, as there are here, so get some good reports on the shop doing it.

And an old heap worth little is not worth importing...

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Thanks, I have considered that but it looks like flying across the pond will set me up more then 25K$ including the risks. No way it costs that unless you have a Citation as a support vehicle. <

Okay an what about this a standard quote without the ferry insurance:

Fuel / oil $5.500,00
Handling $1.800,00
Trip kits (paper charts + electronic) $1.300,00
Survival equipment $1.200,00
Hotels and meals (1 person) $1.750,00
Airline tickets $1.800,00
Satphone rental $300,00
Miscellaneous $1.000,00
Professional fee $3.000,00
Total $17.650,00

EBST

I would never take the wings off any half decent plane, because unless it is put back together by a specialist, it will never fly straight again <

Peter, this is called in aviation terms rigging an aircraft correctly..;-, I've seen some dismantled aircraft and all depends on the experience of the company doing it...

EBST

It didn't cost $25K the last time we brought a Citation back from WIchita. It sounds far too much for a Bonanza.

Darley Moor, Gamston (UK)

vfref, your numbers are just too high. I will dig out what the mirage cost to bring back but it was nothing like your amounts there.

For example, survival equipment costs more like $400 to rent. Handling is less and fuel was also less. Don't know what prof fees are but I didn't have any. Handling also wasn't that much more like half.

EGTK Oxford

A couple of comments...

Removing and reinstalling the wings on most light aircraft is hardly rocket science. On some of them including one of mine it's easy - I had a wing off last year. On my other, which has V-struts and a torsionally flexible wing, the rigging is straightforward and requires no special skill.

I can't imagine why you'd need an IA to sign off reassembly of an aircraft. I've certainly never seen it, unless an annual inspection was part of the deal too.

Yes; I wrongly assumed that you are doing an Annual after the re-assembly.

However, I do think that doing an Annual on a newly bought+imported plane probably is a good idea

The ferry costs are IMHO very substantially inflated:

Fuel / oil $5.500,00 - plausible
Handling $1.800,00 - do you really pay $1800 handling in Greenland and Iceland?
Trip kits (paper charts + electronic) $1.300,00 - that's a whole year's subscription
Survival equipment $1.200,00 - you can rent it for a fraction of that, and if you do this for a living then you should have the stuff already
Hotels and meals (1 person) $1.750,00 - clearly this guy takes the top suites in 5* hotels
Airline tickets $1.800,00 - clearly this guy flies 1st class
Satphone rental $300,00 - plausible
Miscellaneous $1.000,00 - what is that?
Professional fee $3.000,00 - that's his fee for doing it, presumably

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Thank you all for the feedback, all interesting info. I guess yes when looking at all the stuff, one could try to reduce it to 15K I guess. However still I have quotes for less then 9K$ for container including dismantling, packing etc...Less (major) risk involved and a good opportunity to look at the airplane inside out when re-assembling.... I have done the exercise with my previous Mooney (though the wing is a one piece of 11meters) to transport in a huge truck all the way from Germany to Hungary. So I can't imagine that a Beech would much more difficult to do... I would consider a ferry flight if I would be part of the exercise myself.. when you get closer to 50 it's time to do stuff like that anyway ....

EBST

vfref, your numbers are just too high. I will dig out what the mirage cost to bring back but it was nothing like your amounts there. <

Jason, thanks would appreciate some other benchmark numbers there..

EBST
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