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Flying at low CHTs (deep LOP etc) is not a good idea

The reason is that you get sticky valves, with potentially catastrophic results.

This was previously mentioned here

The detailed description is here.

From above: “The ideal range for CHTs is from 325°F-380°F”. This precludes long continuous descents at low power.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Quoting George Braly:

I once asked this same question about shock cooling to the former (20+years) head of engineering at TCM.

How cool is too cool for the CHTs? He thought a moment and said: “239F.”

Q.) Carl, where the heck did that number come from?"

A.) (grin) That is the temperature at which the thermostat is set on the liquid cooled TCM engines. They use the same pistons, rings, valves, etc as the air cooled engines.

EBKT

Maybe if the CHT is that low you don’t get the problem, but 240F is unachievable on aircooled engines. You would need a PT6 powered fan

Also, could it be that the number of those engines they have sold can be counted on one’s fingers, with a corresponding lack of feedback from the field?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

CHT can be acceptable in a reasonable range as long as the cylinder is evenly cooled top, bottom, front and rear. The problematic cylinder on IO520/550 engines is #6, front left.
By putting 12 thermocouples on the circumference, the problem was identified, a fix was developed. The uneven cooling resulted in the aluminium cylinder becoming egg-shaped while the steel piston remained round.

EBKT

How would even cooling impact the exhaust valve guide temperature?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

The detailed description is here.

Everyone has to decide himself if advertisement for an oil additive is a good source for understanding what and what not to do with your engine.

Germany

Is there a claim that Camguard reduces valve sticking?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Yes they do: They first explain that it is deposits on the shafts that cause the problems to them claim:

“I will mention that the oil additive, Camguard, contains unique deposit control additives. These additives
work in conjunction with the ashless
dispersant to keep engines deposit and
sludge free and it is the only product to offer this technology.”

So the entire story is their sales story …

Germany

It might keep the engine clean and I don’t doubt that, but I am not aware Camguard does anything for valve guides. I have been using it for ever and still got the problem.

On #2 which has a much lower CHT than the rest.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I will mod the baffle on the #2 cylinder to bring up its CHT about 15-20F. It’s an easy job…

1 333
2 307
3 340
4 326
5 344
6 348

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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