Alpha_Floor wrote:
I always wondered if endorsements have any actual legal validity or if they are just to show others (clubs, plane owners etc.) that you can fly the thing.
They are legally required in FAA-land, FAR 61.31 refers.
To legally operate the accident aircraft, you would need:
- a license
- a valid medical
- a valid BFR
- a high-power endorsement
- a complex endorsement
- a high altitude endorsement IF the service ceiling is above 25.000ft (not sure if this is applicable to the aircraft in question, though; there appear to be variants with a higher service ceiling as per Google search)
WarleyAir wrote:
I assume there will be an existing complete seabed map (electronic) of the area showing all existing ‘junk’ down there (will be a lot).
They will then only be looking at ‘stuff’ that has ‘newly arrived’ so to speak.
I don’t know if anybody keeps such maps in that area and how littered seabed is but the success highly depends on whether the aircraft remained in one piece or disintegrated on impact.
172driver wrote:
- a high-power endorsement
- a complex endorsement
- a high altitude endorsement IF the service ceiling is above 25.000ft (not sure if this is applicable to the aircraft in question, though; there appear to be variants with a higher service ceiling as per Google search)
Correct. There are a very limited number of people doing these in the UK / Europe so at least it sould be relatively easy to establish that the pilot was up to speed.
172driver wrote:
IF the service ceiling is above 25.000ftThe -310P has a service ceiling of 25,000ft, so that should not be necessary.
Arne wrote:
The -310P has a service ceiling of 25,000ft, so that should not be necessary.
Nor “was necessary” for a 2000ft flight, tough I guess the rule applies 
AFAIK any FAA CFI can do a PA46 signoff.
The EASA FCL requirement (if applicable) is more work.
What would be included in a ‘High power endorsement ’ for a Piston single?
IIRC ’High Performance’ used in the uk kicks in at Turbine.
Peter wrote:
AFAIK any FAA CFI can do a PA46 signoff.
There is no ‘PA46’ signoff as such. What you need are the two endorsements and they involve some ground and flight training. The high-altitude one is a bit more involved.
Arne wrote:
The -310P has a service ceiling of 25,000ft, so that should not be necessary.
If that’s the case, then no, it wouldn’t be necessary. I think quite a few pressurized airplanes are certified to 25k ft because of that rule.
GA_Pete wrote:
What would be included in a ‘High power endorsement ’ for a Piston single?
IIRC ’High Performance’ used in the uk kicks in at Turbine.
‘High performance’ refers to any engine producing more than 200hp (same as ‘high power’)
‘Complex’ refers to retractable gear and/or constant speed prop
To operate the airplane in question, you’d need both.
172driver wrote:
‘High performance’ refers to any engine producing more than 200hp (same as ‘high power’)
‘Complex’ refers to retractable gear and/or constant speed propTo operate the airplane in question, you’d need both.
Correct and the only signoff otherwise you need is for your insurance company. In the US, Insurers tend to control the training you require for a particular type other than those where a type rating is required.
