Airborne_Again wrote:
Well, you can’t say that it is a difference between the UK and the rest of Europe unless you know what decisions the various competent authorities in the EU have made.
Fine. It’s all just semantics. I meant the difference between the UK and the “default” European position.
That’s what this thread is for. For people to point out the differences of flying in their country with respect to others. (or potential differences, can’t expect everybody to know the rules of every other country)
WingsWaterAndWheels wrote:
Then the tower asked the question about POB and some other details
ATC will ask for POB, fuel on board and whether there are any dangerous goods on board.
Alpha_Floor wrote:
I’m just pointing out practical differences between the UK and the rest of Europe, as of today.
Well, you can’t say that it is a difference between the UK and the rest of Europe unless you know what decisions the various competent authorities in the EU have made.
Allowing flight in class G down to 1500 m is something I think most EU countries have done.
Frans wrote:
And the Dutch have a clear preference to know and tell “POB” all the time.
The POB topic reminds of a flight where I was a passenger coming to land in Toussus LFPN in an RG aircraft with landing gear indicator showing only 2 greens! Then the tower asked the question about POB and some other details while we were trying to get the gear down. In the end, we landed with gear down manually and 2 greens, with the fire truck chasing us on the runway and then escorting us to the parking stand. That is probably the only time I remember being asked POB, but I probably volunteered the information a few times…
I doubt the UK will deviate from SERA in any way that actually matters in reality.
We can always have a debate about whether VFR within 10cm of a cloud at 141kt and 501ft AGL is legal, but nobody actually cares.
Airborne_Again wrote:
This is not an UK vs. EU issue. All of your three items are permitted decisions by Competent Authorities under SERA, and at least the second one was in fact being applied in the UK before it left the EU.
Well I never implied otherwise :)
I’m just pointing out practical differences between the UK and the rest of Europe, as of today.
Alpha_Floor wrote:
Can’t edit the original post anymore, but some interesting points to consider regarding UK vs. EU,
This is not an UK vs. EU issue. All of your three items are permitted decisions by Competent Authorities under SERA, and at least the second one was in fact being applied in the UK before it left the EU.
Can’t edit the original post anymore, but some interesting points to consider regarding UK vs. EU, all published as part of the ORS4 series:
Graham wrote:
SERA is EU-only and has no special status as the ‘right’ way to do things.
It’s true that the regulation called “SERA” is EU-only, but it is all based on ICAO documents, particularly Annex 2, which arguably are the “right” way to do things.
Benelux is normally excellent.
Hmm… I don’t like VFR in the Netherlands. Even as a native Dutch speaker, I think Dutch ATC speaks often way too fast. I find them often not easy to understand, plus they shortcut also a lot. And the Dutch have a clear preference to know and tell “POB” all the time. If you forget to tell it, no matter if it’s ATC, FIS or just the guy on the radio of an uncontrolled airfield, they will ask you immediately, as if it’s the most important thing to know. After a few flights in the Netherlands, I began reporting POB also in other countries. Actually completely unnecessary. 
