Peter, operator approval is required for N register operating outside the US. The CAA stuff applies to G register. The King Schools course is needed to apply for the LoA but it is still a separate application to the FAA.
Edited to clarify that the King Schools course is not mandated but you must prove training and it is the only cost effective way to do so for GA.
Is PRNAV approval required in order to
legally fly LPV approaches in Europe?
Is PRNAV approval required in order to legally fly LPV approaches in Europe?
No – I don’t think there is any connection at all.
To fly LPV approaches you just need a “W” box and an AFMS that authorises that, and that’s true for both EASA-reg and N-reg.
In practice you need a BRNAV compliant installation IAW AC20-138 which basically means the required annunciators in the right field of view, and some VHF interference tests.
I am asking because it is my impression that there is a lot of confusion and misinformation among pilots regarding the terms RNAV (BRNAV and PRNAV) and RNP…heck, it is indeed all quite complicated, with various bits of regulations, guidelines and so on floating around in Europe and worldwide.
Just a couple of weeks ago, I was at a flying instructor refresher seminar, where several professional and semi-professional instructors insisted that, as a private pilot, one needed specific aircraft, pilot and operator approvals in order to legally fly LPV approaches in Europe…
It’s quite a mess…
Is PRNAV approval required in order to
legally fly LPV approaches in Europe?
No. (How do I know? Because I’m the one within our company who holds the PRNAV courses.)
Just a couple of weeks ago, I was at a flying instructor refresher seminar, where several professional and semi-professional instructors insisted that, as a private pilot, one needed specific aircraft, pilot and operator approvals in order to legally fly LPV approaches in Europe…
That, however, is just complete nonsense. Not suprising though – all the instructors I met during my PPL training were completely clue-less when it came to anything to do with actually flying somewhere. Instructors like What Next who actually do it for real are rare.
You should point all these people to EuroGA
The more widespread issue – a legal point really but since we are talking “legal” – is that you need an AFMS (flight manual supplement) for your GPS that specifically authorises these things:
BRNAV
PRNAV
GPS/RNAV approaches
LPV approaches
Over the years, most GNS boxes were installed without any of that paperwork, and they are not legal for any IFR in Europe (non-UK) especially IFR in CAS. That was why I did this. It is paper only… but if somebody doesn’t like you, and you fly a GPS approach, it is in full view of the whole circus, and…
PRNAV paperwork remains a tricky area. On the one hand I am told that a GTN comes with the EASA AML STC which includes the right PRNAV AFMS, and there are even a few people who have done it that way. On the other hand I am told this is wrong and the aircraft still needs to be approved. And same for an N-reg even though the FAA STC covers both PRNAV and LPV – same as the EASA one – and actually does so for the GNS “W” boxes too.
What the hell is required for the aircraft, in addition to the GPS installation?
I know of two people who know this PRNAV stuff in great detail, for private ops in piston GA. One rarely posts here, and the other says he never will
As I have said before, I have no current “need to know” (my GPS doesn’t qualify for PRNAV) and I am not spending time on it because by the time I get around to it, the regs will have changed anyway.
That, however, is just complete nonsense.
At least FOCA (specifically Urs Buergi, Head of Section Training organisations and light aircraft operations) thinks that a special pilot approval is needed for LPV starting this october (directive O-017-). That approval requires a theoretical and practical course (which can be done in an approved simulator or on the aircraft). That LPV approval also grants you PRNAV approval.
On the other hand I am told this is wrong and the aircraft still needs to be approved.
Not according to the above mentioned FOCA directive O-017. Showing an approved flight manual (supplement) is enough.