dublinpilot wrote:
So if I fly my EASA aircraft, on an EASA licence into the UK, presumably I need to comply with both SERA and the UKANO, and have to take the most restrictive definition of night if I’m not night current? In other words, if I’m not night current, then the flight must be at day time per SERA and UKANO?
AFAIU, rules apply like this:
If I fly an aircraft registered in country R in the airspace of country A with a license from country L then,
• License rules of country L apply
• Airspace rules of country A apply
• Operational rules of both countries A and R apply.
So if you — today — fly as you describe, SERA does not apply. (Except as far as the UK says it applies.)
dublinpilot wrote:
So if I fly my EASA aircraft, on an EASA licence into the UK, presumably I need to comply with both SERA and the UKANO, and have to take the most restrictive definition of night if I’m not night current? In other words, if I’m not night current, then the flight must be at day time per SERA and UKANO?If I am in the UK in EASA aircraft on an EASA licence, and I’m trying to perform my night landing in order to regain night currency presumably I only count landings which are at night per EASA definition?
Why does the UK always have to be different?!
For pax night currency flights & logbook flight time, I imagine that’s related to your licence?
Fort MSA and VMC weather for NVFR ops or airfield opening hours/night ops, I imagine it’s related to “country airspace rules of the air”?
I doubt aircraft registration or EASA/non-EASA type or Part21, Annex1/2/3 does matters
Ibra wrote:
Apparently UK CAA has reverted the few SERA items but mostly those for which it already had exemptions (Class D VMC minima for VFR, strictly speaking it’s ICAO
So if I fly my EASA aircraft, on an EASA licence into the UK, presumably I need to comply with both SERA and the UKANO, and have to take the most restrictive definition of night if I’m not night current? In other words, if I’m not night current, then the flight must be at day time per SERA and UKANO?
If I am in the UK in EASA aircraft on an EASA licence, and I’m trying to perform my night landing in order to regain night currency presumably I only count landings which are at night per EASA definition?
Why does the UK always have to be different?!
There is a GM (guidance material) about the night definition:
To enable practical application of the definition of night, evening and morning civil twilight may be promulgated pertinent to the date and position.
So NAA are entitled to put a simplified definition in the AIP.
But if some NAA inspector cause you trouble for landing 32 minutes after sunset, you’ll be able to point him at the difference of the law and the practical simplification.
HeliPilot wrote:
As for EASA rules, Day VFR is from sunrise (-30 minutes) to sunset (+30minutes).
That’s not correct. Day VFR is from beginning of civil twilight to end of civil twilight.
SERA definitions: ‘night’ means the hours between the end of evening civil twilight and the beginning of morning civil twilight. Civil twilight ends in the evening when the centre of the sun’s disc is 6 degrees below the horizon and begins in the morning when the centre of the sun’s disc is 6 degrees below the horizon;
SERA.5005 (c): When so prescribed by the competent authority, VFR flights at night may be permitted under the following conditions…
Before SERA, some European countries defined day VFR as SR-30 to SS+30 and some day-only airports still use the same for their opening hours, but that is not relevant for the day/night VFR distinction.
(Interestingly, in the Aircrew and Air Ops regulations, the night definition is slightly different – the Competent Authority may define night to be a different period between sunset and sunrise.)
Apparently UK CAA has reverted the few SERA items but mostly those for which it already had exemptions (Class D VMC minima for VFR, strictly speaking it’s ICAO), we have to wait for next edition of the UKANO to see if it’s just copy+past SERA (UK had untill 2022 to be fully compliant, I think that will stay)
The UK incorporated EU law into its law, on brexit date, so any subsequent departures will need to be explicitly implemented – AIUI.
By the way, does the UK remain bound by SERA, following Brexit? Is SERA linked to EASA membership?
arj1 wrote:
Can’t find anything like that in EASA docs.
SERA definitions:
‘night’ means the hours between the end of evening civil twilight and the beginning of morning civil twilight. Civil twilight ends in the evening when the centre of the sun’s disc is 6 degrees below the horizon and begins in the morning when the centre of the sun’s disc is 6 degrees below the horizon;
In EASA land yes not need for night takeoffs & landings currency if you have an IR, not in FAA land it’s 3 night landing/takeoff in last 90 days irrespective of qualifications and worse it’s more dark at Sunset+1h rather than Sunset+30min 
Funnily, instructors/examiners are exempt if suddenly their pax becomes students 
