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Malibuflyer wrote:

Unfortunately we only have one world ….

AF wrote:

So, we’ll switch from fossil fuel drilling to cobalt and lithium mining instead.
waste
dead batteries
more on dead batteries
cobalt cost

Ah yes, the solution is biofuels…
Ah, wait… rainforests

This grand experiment of Climate Change as the propulsion system for transitioning the economy over to renewable energy is not conclusively a good one.
Children are being radicalized by fear of believing that their world is being destroyed.

Totally Agree.

Im old enough to remember the scare stories about “the next ice age in 25-30 yrs” in the late 70s when I was a kid.
Then there was the whole CND thing in the 80s and MAD… But the wall came down…
(I was too busy having fun in the 90s…) Anyone?
Suicide bombers were the big scary thing in the 00s…OBL & ISIS…
Then Save the planet & Climate Change…

Now… C19…???

The irony is that the Climate Change activists have actually had 2-3 months of reduced carbon emissions exactly as they would like to have.
We dont really know the cost of this to date yet, but it does give a taste of how much real change would cost us all.

Silvaire wrote:

AF wrote:
You talk about sustainability, but that doesn’t address population growth, which is the real problem here.
Exactly

Double irony is that C19 if let rip might actually have had a real effect in that it might have reduced the human population a bit…

Hopelessly off-topic I know, but (sadly?) no more fossil fuel will ever be made, because bacteria evolved to eat lignin :-)

White Waltham EGLM, United Kingdom

That’s really interesting. Never knew that…

@davids post moved to exactly the right topic

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Hmm… Peat beds are still being laid down and a quick Google suggests that many coal deposits are geologically much more recent.

I accept that a tree’s chance of becoming coal is probably less now than it was in the Carboniferous.

Last Edited by kwlf at 02 Dec 15:34

There is also this Stanford link casting doubt on the whole ‘evolutionary lag’ idea.

Sigh, why are none of the best stories ever true… :-(

White Waltham EGLM, United Kingdom

DavidS wrote:

but (sadly?) no more fossil fuel will ever be made,

Independent on whether it’s true or not -it’s for sure irrelevant: The natural process of coalification takes millions of years – so orders of magnitudes longer than the time span Homo Sapiens is on this very earth.

What are the odds that even if a tree that falls to the ground today would eventually become coal a human being will still be around by that time?

Germany

Malibuflyer wrote:

What are the odds that even if a tree that falls to the ground today would eventually become coal a human being will still be around by that time?

Man is doomed anyway. AIs will soon take over, and they see no use in stupid monkeys like us

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

There is SO much fossil fuel still in the ground. Most coal reserves have not been touched yet. Fracking for oil and gas has not yet been deployed in most of the world yet, the UK for example has centuries of gas sitting under Blackpool waiting to be exploited. And if that all runs out then there are methane hydrate deposits sitting widespread in the sediments of the continental shelf. So no need for us to wait for trees to fall down!

Last Edited by Buckerfan at 03 Dec 21:20
Upper Harford private strip UK, near EGBJ, United Kingdom

City of poitiers which turned Green in 2020 decides to stop its subsidies to the aeroclubs.
Here is the debate at the city council :


In short, the mayor says “We, and children especially, need to stop dreaming about flying”.

LFOU, France

Jujupilote wrote:

“We, and children especially, need to stop dreaming about flying”

Wow…poor kids. I suppose they are now supposed to dream about working from home and making a zoom call…

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