1 hour Review Flight & Expiry Date

172driver wrote:

Perhaps Austria has filed a difference? I’ll try to figure it out.

@172driver
Were you able to clear it up?

@wbardorf and @Qalupalik, thanks, interesting. The examiner (who knew I had way more than the required hours) and also a bizjet pilot friend were sure it had to be during the last three months to retain the original expiry date. Perhaps Austria has filed a difference? I’ll try to figure it out.

172driver wrote:

I’ve just had that same discussion a few days ago and there may (may!!) be a difference between the UK and the rest of Europe.

Definitely not for Germany where the training flight can take place anytime during the 12 months. In fact, it should be noted that there is no requirement to do these in sequence either: I recently did the training flight at the very beginning of the 12-month period before I had fulfilled the other criteria (e.g. 12 hours of flight time during the 12-month period prior to expiry). The FI then revalidated the class rating after I demonstrated by logbook entry that I had fulfilled the remaining criteria (flight time, PIC time and number of takeoffs and landings).

172driver wrote:

Apparently, to maintain the original expiry date, the reval flight has to happen within three months of said date. Doing it sooner means that the 24-months period now starts at the date of the reval flight. The FI was talking to is also an examiner so I’m pretty sure he knows his stuff.

That is only true for proficiency checks attempted in lieu of a revalidation by experience. Point (b) of FCL.740.A is quite clear.

I’ve just had that same discussion a few days ago and there may (may!!) be a difference between the UK and the rest of Europe. I always did my EASA reval by experience flight in the second 12 month period and that didn’t change the expiry date on my UK-issued license.

However, to avoid potential Brexit-related issues I recently transferred my license to Austria. As I happened to be there a few days ago, I intended to do my reval flight on that occasion, assuming the same situation as in the past. Ha! Not so…. Apparently, to maintain the original expiry date, the reval flight has to happen within three months of said date. Doing it sooner means that the 24-months period now starts at the date of the reval flight. The FI was talking to is also an examiner so I’m pretty sure he knows his stuff. This is for an EASA PPL.

The LAPL validity is often discussed for those flying gliders on FCL such as LAPL(S)/SPL(S) both subject to “rolling currency”

And note a subtle, silly and probably quite unintentional difference: while SEP(L) revalidation requires “12 hours including at least 1 hr. training flight” (within last 12 month of validity period) – then LAPL validity is depending on 12 hours PIC plus at least 1 hr. training flight (within 24 months before flight).

Yes, I think few people understand the LAPL “rolling” currency which is different from 2 years currency in a PPL (bit like pax 3 takeoff/landing currency), I bet 80% of those on LAPL are running on PPL currency…

I think OP has a LAPL = you are subject to LAPL recency:

FCL.140.A LAPL(A) — Recency requirements

Holders of an LAPL (A) shall only exercise the privileges of their licence when they have completed, in the last 24 months, as pilots of aeroplanes or TMG:(1) at least 12 hours of flight time as PIC, including 12 take-offs and landings; and(2) refresher training of at least 1 hour of total flight time with an instructor.

I think your instructor is trying to explain you are on a 24 month rolling validity and you must check your recency before each flight, hopefully the above makes sense now? All the best