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Autorouter issues and questions (merged)

Now it worked for me as well. Interestingly before it looked like autorouter itself finds a route but the Eurocontrol validation failed. Maybe Eurocontrol was down?

LSZH, LSZF

It looks like there was a brief unscheduled downtime at Eurocontrol

LSZK, Switzerland

Autorouter vs RocketRoute error

Autorouter has proposed a good route from LGSR to LDDU as follows:

LGSR N0174F120 MIL1G MIL N134 KOR L53 GARTA V62 YNN L611 RODON DCT TIBRI R45 MOKUN MOKUN3A LDDU

The website says this has returned with no error.

When I try to validate this in RocketRoute it comes back with the error: THE DCT SEGMENT RODON..TIBRI (62 NM) IS TOO LONG FOR LYDCT:000:325. MAXIMUM IS 0 NM [LY1A]

Which is correct? RocketRoute is proposing the following route which is a tad ridiculous: DCT MIL N134 KOR L613 YNN L611 RODON A482 CRAYE A48 BEVIS

EGKB

Who knows. If Autorouter says it works then file it on Autorouter.

EGTK Oxford

Morgan wrote:

MAXIMUM IS 0 NM

This maximum is a bit low, unless directs are forbidden.

LSZH, LSZF

That’s one of the dreaded profiler issues…

The eurocontrol profiler thinks your climb/descent performance is different from what your aircraft is capable to do. Now when you file with autorouter we add profile information to give hints to the eurocontrol profiler. This information is missing if you cut&paste the route

LSZK, Switzerland

Does this already qualify as part of the “Single European Sky” bureaucracy if Europe decides for me what route I think my plane can fly or not?

tomjnx wrote:

The eurocontrol profiler thinks your climb/descent performance is different from what your aircraft is capable to do. Now when you file with autorouter we add profile information to give hints to the eurocontrol profiler. This information is missing if you cut&paste the route

Interesting – thanks. So my SR22 profile on RocketRoute differs sufficiently to that of the AutoRouter to prevent validation – or RocketRoute is deficient in how it communicates to the Eurocontrol profiler?

EGKB

@tomjnx, can Autorouter only override the climb/descent performance in the Eurocontrol database, or the ceiling as well?

LKBU near Prague, Czech Republic

This is how the performance profile directives look like in a Autorouter flightplan:

(FPL-PHPCA-ZG -DA40/L -SDFGRY/S -EHLE1400 -N0132F060 FRO/N0132F060 IFR DCT VEXAR DCT DOBAK/N0140F120 N125 REVLA T907 SORUN/N0138F110 T903 RIBSO RIBSO4A -EDDH0126 -DOF/160503 EET/FRO0000 RMK/CREW CONTACT +31612345678 TOW:960 TOC:D6F060T0004 BOC:D78F060T0036 TOC:D87F120T0041 TOD:D148F120T0105 BOD:D151F110T0106 TOD:D187F110T0121 DAL:D201ADEDDH DAL:D168PTRIBSO TAXI:10 PBN/A1B2C2D2 -E/0648 P/TBN R/E A/WITH WITH BLUE C/L. KRANENDONK)

A lot of background info is found on the Autorouter website: Flight Path Profiles

Morgan, can you check if Rocketroute adds similar elements to your flightplan?

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