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Autorouter issues (merged thread)

I agree that time input is inconvenient on autorouter.

I also have rarely had reliability problems. However, I have found that they are often helped by emptying cache / cookies / local storage / … of the browser.

ELLX

Due to the AR’s past association with EuroGA, which was heavily promoted, in the form of

  • spending a lot of time running this site
  • printing thousands of leaflets mentioning the AR
  • distributing these leaflets to airports all over Europe (actually also at various ferry stops to the US)
  • airmailing them to 100+ aeroclubs (that wasn’t cheap)
  • AR getting loads of SEO via EuroGA
  • David did loads of work on the OAUTH integration (AR login via EuroGA) – easily 4 digits’ worth at today’s software rates
  • etc

lots of people contact me personally (email and PMs) asking what’s happened to the AR, why has Achim (and Tomjnx) vanished, why aren’t they sometimes aren’t getting responses to support tickets, why is my route going all over the place, why can’t it find a route, etc, etc. So I have to tell them the guys behind it have vanished, and can you try raising a support ticket there… After a few hundred of these I get a bit fed up with it.

I even had an “admin job” for a year or two on it, checking and approving new signups and weeding out obvious jokers. They had 4k+ signups during that time.

In fact Achim & Co let down other people here too – because lots of people distributed the leaflets around airports around Europe.

Achim did indeed post a lot of good stuff, though with increasing personal attacks over time. He would also disappear for months or a year at a time for reasons which were mostly variations of the “we must have free speech; moderation on a forum is nazi censorship” theme (which has also come up with 1 or 2 others, as the old-timers here will remember). Each time I would reply that an unmodded site will just get trashed… obviously! Why Tom left I have no idea; I had some comms with him and he said he just got busy elsewhere. He popped up here a few weeks ago, briefly, and disappeared again.

There was never any material dispute and indeed nobody owes anybody anything. However, to any outsider, it just looks bloody childish to walk away from the project and pretend to disappear from the forum which was heavily used to promote it.

And people still post AR related questions on EuroGA because it is the only English language forum covering it…

The result is that no commercial entity will consider licensing the product.

For the past year or two, EuroGA has been in a very nice period of tranquility and I am sure everybody likes that

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I get your point, to a degree, but I still think he has done as much for EuroGA as you have done for autorouter. A huge ton of (mostly timeless) really good posts, still there, for everybody to benefit from.

However, to any outsider, it just looks bloody childish to walk away from the project

He certainly has not walked away from the autorouter project as such. Sure, the development pace is no longer as fast it was a few years ago, but that is entirely normal with a mature product such as autorouter. Achim is an entrepreneur, and a creator, so as soon as some project is mature, he moves on the next one.

Just saying… please get on with it. It’s YOUR such bitter posts that look a bit childish, rather.

Frankfurt (EDFZ, EDFE), Germany

I’ve used Autorouter exclusively for three years. Any issues I’ve had have been dealt with promptly by Tom or Achim.

Great product!

Spending too long online
EGTF Fairoaks, EGLL Heathrow, United Kingdom

Same here! Couldn’t be more satisfied.

ESOW, Sweden

I’ve used Autorouter exclusively for three years. Any issues I’ve had have been dealt with promptly by Tom or Achim.

I made the same experience as ChrisParker. Problems are solved immediately by Achim and Tom. Autorouter is great.

EDDS , Germany

Has anyone tried using the PC (browser) interface to delay a flight plan. It used to not work, though it worked via the telegram interface (the /eobt command).

I don’t want to test it because sometimes it did actually do the delay, but reported on the browser interface that it failed – above.

I found the following detail posted by Achim elsewhere:

In the autorouter web interface, you can select the day and time of Delay. By telegram go maximum 24h.
For telegram, EOBT / DELAY takes the day without asking the date on which the given time is the closest to the current time. So if you make EOBT 0700 and it’s 0600Z, the plan will be delayed by one hour. If you do EOBT 0500Z and it is 0600Z, it will be moved to the next day. If the plan is at 0700Z, it is 0600Z and you are doing 0630Z, it will be advanced to 30min after the current time.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

The result is that no commercial entity will consider licensing the product.

Not true, it’s licensed to Garmin. It’s part of the Garmin pilot app routing tool.

EDLN, Germany

Of course, but that was done some time ago

Has anyone recently tried using the PC (browser) interface to delay a flight plan?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Has anyone recently tried using the PC (browser) interface to delay a flight plan?

Not recently but maybe last year on the web browser of my mobile phone, which worked.

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