From here
this is what I had to buy in order to get the FTO to sign me off to sit the seven JAA IR exams. The 14-exam “ATPL” package is around 2.5x bigger
This is what the starry-eyed your boys and gurls who watched Catch Me If You Can have to study, at any European FTO, as a part of their 80k-100k course.
Nearly all of it is bollox. But not all. Maybe 10% is worth learning.
And this is what I had to buy for a 5-day immersion course resulting in sign off at exit for both FAA PPL & IR exams (60 questions, 2.5hrs each). Made an appointment at a computerized exam centre and passed the IR test the following week. This was when the FAA had approved exam centres in Europe.
Nowadays a FTO will provide a “free” AviationExam subscription instead of books. They can see one’s results and will sign off if one gets 80% correct answers.
I think we are missing the point, is he a “private doctor” (treating himself) or “commercial doctor” (treating others)?
What would be the equivalent of such a “private doctor” in the flying world? Even with what we call a private pilot license I’m entitled to fly other people around (i.e. “treating others”). Yes, there are some national licenses which do not include these privileges – and therefore are really only for “flying myself” – but the theory for these licenses is typically much less complex.
Lund University in Sweden offers an ATPL theory programme.
They do in Tromsø as well. You can get a bachelor or master (I think) in “Aviation”. Flying is a part of it. I don’t know how exactly it works, but what you get in the end is an ATPL and other stuff. Even if you should lose your medical, you still would be considered “interesting” in the aviation business.
LeSving wrote:
They do in Tromsø as well. You can get a bachelor or master (I think) in “Aviation”. Flying is a part of it. I don’t know how exactly it works, but what you get in the end is an ATPL and other stuff. Even if you should lose your medical, you still would be considered “interesting” in the aviation business.
Lund University also gives a complete commercial pilot programme which earns the student an MPL including internship as first officer with an airline. That is distinct from the ATPL theory programme I mentioned.
Funny Q: does the 14-exam EASA ATPL set cover an ab initio PPL too?
If not, those FTO students who have never even flown a kite, would be doing 9+14 exams.
Yes however enrolment in an ATPL theory course requires an ICAO PPL. There are now 13 ATPL exams.
FCL.035 Crediting of flight time and theoretical knowledge
(b) Crediting of theoretical knowledge
(1) An applicant having passed the theoretical knowledge examination
for an airline transport pilot licence shall be credited with the
theoretical knowledge requirements for the light aircraft pilot
licence, the private pilot licence, the commercial pilot licence and,
except in the case of helicopters, the IR and the EIR in the same
category of aircraft.
Qalupalik wrote:
Yes however enrolment in an ATPL theory course requires an ICAO PPL.
How does that work in integrated training for the CPL/IR or the MPL?
