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Well that one is fairly obvious
China knew it had a disaster on its hands and the best way to come out on top at the eventual end is to ensure that the other nations of the world share equally in the disaster.
Particularly when china knows it has the governmental muscle and enforcement abilities to squash the virus coupled with population obedience to its methods that will never work in the “west” not to mention no elections!
If the disaster was confined to China then it would be China that looses not the rest of the world.
So as you say they exported the virus as far and wide as possible while being rather coy about the exact transmissibility method of it.
and sent out the UK ambassador to say how it woudl be wraycist to ban flights from China – knowing how sensitive the Western snowflakes are to being called wraycist.

United Kingdom

Nobody in the UK should believe the response here would be better, or even anywhere near as good as the Chinese one.
Remember the initial response to “Mad Cow Disease” and the Conservative Minister on TV saying beef was safe, and trying to get his young daughter to eat a hamburger to prove his point.

Maoraigh
EGPE, United Kingdom

I would find it funny that conspiracy theorists accuse China of taking measures too late that nobody else took until much much later if it weren’t for the rampant nationalism these theories breed.

There is no doubt that China is an increasingly repressive regime with huge ambitions increasingly throwing its weight about and might develop into a threat not seen since the cold war, but if you wanted deliberately introduce a disease you would not start at home.

Biggin Hill

Vaccinations really taking off in the UK now – over 470k administered on Friday alone.

Tomorrow morning I am off to Oxford for F2F training on how to administer vaccinations. I am wondering if the class will practice by vaccinating each other?

EGLM & EGTN

Cobalt wrote:

There is no doubt that China is an increasingly repressive regime with huge ambitions increasingly throwing its weight about and might develop into a threat not seen since the cold war, but if you wanted deliberately introduce a disease you would not start at home.

Well argued as usual, Cobalt!

I for one do not think for a second that China (or anyone elsefor that matter) deliberately or even accidentally “released” SARS-CoV2 into the wild. A pandemic of this scale was statistically likely for a while and now it finally happened. It’s just nature. There is no purpose behind it.

Low-hours pilot
EDVM Hildesheim, Germany

I strongly doubt it was deliberately released because nobody would do that until they had a vaccine. But I can well believe it was one of

  • dodgy handling of animals in China (“wet markets” etc), plus a cover-up
  • accident in a Chinese lab, plus a cover-up

China is in a 24/7 cover-up mode now, so they know something allright.

At 5635 posts this is by far the longest thread on EuroGA

Reflecting the effect it has on our flying…

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Nobody is suggesting intentional release of the Wuhan virus (except the CCP which accused the American military).

Would Porton Down have fessed up to an accidental release in the UK? Maybe, maybe not, but that doesn’t make the CCP’s cover-up any less pernicious.

I don’t think nationalism has anything to do with it either. Nobody is accusing “China” or the Chinese people of wrongdoing. The problem is their, (how can I put it without giving offence?), somewhat authoritarian socialist regime.

Last Edited by Jacko at 24 Jan 09:46
Glenswinton, SW Scotland, United Kingdom

There is open argument, and there is insinuation. By calling it “CCP Virus”, “China Virus” instead of the name that is universally used, people express a view/send a message, and it comes across as accusatory, and it appears to accuse the regime of something that it most likely didn’t do.

Of course if it escaped from a lab, it is unlikely they would admit it, and at this point we will probably never know; it is a lot easier to hide than a nuclear power station blowing up. And I also agree that we should not believe for a minute that in our freer societies, officialdom will not try to hide the truth (the full extent of the radioactive release caused by the Windscale/Sellafield fire was censored), although it will be much harder to keep it under wraps.

At 5635 posts this is by far the longest thread on EuroGA

Reflecting the effect it has on our flying…

@Peter, I think it more reflects that this is a place to have intelligent and civilised debate with a diversity of opinion. In most other “echo chamber like” forums, either the libertarian Silvaires or the authoritarian Mooney_Drivers would completely dominate a rather one-sided debate, while here we have the full spectrum, which I hugely appreciate, because it certainly has increased my understanding of the different views and approaches, and has influenced mine.

It is a credit to this community that they both are still here and think it worthwhile to continue, and I hope it stays that way.

Biggin Hill

Cobalt wrote:

either the libertarian Silvaires or the authoritarian Mooney_Drivers

I am slightly concerned now which category you see me belonging to.

(PS and I wont take offence).

Last Edited by Fuji_Abound at 24 Jan 13:23

Cobalt wrote:

people express a view/send a message, and it comes across as accusatory

We could all be 100% PC and nice and polite at all times. It wouldn’t change anything. Words are only words, and if you want to add in certain emotional aspects into each and every word, there is nothing I can do about that.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway
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