My understanding is that an "R" in the equipment list (and of late 2012 the Box 18 stuff) is all that is currently necessary to fly in any "enroute" airspace.
Also, there is no enforcement at the airport level of PRNAV capability or approvals. (Commercial aviation would grind to a halt if there was).
This latest business is purely to do with Eurocontrol accepting (or not) IFR flight plans.
So you work out what text you need (see my last post giving the two bits of text for box 10 and box 18), stick that in, and forget about it.
If the powers to be ever introduce enroute airspace which is PRNAV only, then there will be huge problems as everybody flying IFR scrambles to get the approvals etc.
STOLman - your GNSx30W is PRNAV-approvable. I am not sure of the latest process for this. I am N-reg too but my GPS (KLN94) is not supported by Honeywell with the "PRNAV LOA" so I cannot do it anyway.
Regarding the required "crew training" I believe someone was running a seminar where you got a certificate afterwards and that was it.
The actual procedures (i.e. the way you fly ) is not going to change. PRNAV is a massive job creation scheme, on the back of a boat which left the harbour about 15 years ago, when GPS came in and threw out the old RNP5 RNP1 etc principles. A simple RNAV/GPS approach is equivalent to RNP0.3...
I'm told the Rocket Route site has some errors in it so their code suggestions are not perfect yet. My pilot pal has been speaking with Rocket Route last night and they agreed there are problems. Why would you specify less capability, would it not be easier to just file what you have? Or does euro control reject if you specify more than is necessary for that particular plan?
Why would you specify less capability, would it not be easier to just file what you have? Or does euro control reject if you specify more than is necessary for that particular plan?
Well, if you specify more than what you have, you might get prosecuted. If you specify less than you have (because it's easier and you are not sure about what exactly you have because the whole certification story is a mess) and it is still enough for the airspace and Eurocontrol does not reject your flight plan, you're good. All you want to do is make that computer in Brussels happy.
the plane I fly is N Reg fitted with G1000 + DME + ADF + WAAS GPS. I fly I rules and use AFPEX for filing.
In your opinion, field 10a should be filled with SDFG ?
Reply to toga67:
Your set up is similar to mine except you have G1000 (lucky man) where mine is G500. I think you 10a should be:
Followed by your transponder for 10b, /S possibly. There are 19 to choose from so you need the list.
Because you have specified G and R in 10a your item 18 HAS to have the correct PBN and NAV codes or the flight plan will be rejected.
Understood. Thank you.
I have avidyne and dual GTN650s, GTX330s with the LOA for PRNAV. I use DFGYRS/S in 10 and 18: PBN/B2D2S1