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Brexit and general aviation, UK leaving EASA, etc (merged)

Yes if UK CAA issues a certificate of validation under art 169 of the ANO. See UK CAA Brexit information page for private pilots. (link):

London, United Kingdom

Thank you @Qalupalik – I’m in the same position as LFHNflightstudent and I’ll sleep a bit better now

EGHO-LFQF-KCLW, United Kingdom

The validation would probably not be pursuant to article 169 of the ANO but rather to Annex III to the UK Aircrew Regulation. Or alternatively done as a derogation from that regulation iaw article 12(4) if the date there is extended. This arrangement would respect the primacy of retained EU law. We’re certainly in for an exciting future.

London, United Kingdom

Thanks a million @qualupalik, good news indeed!

LFHN - Bellegarde - Vouvray France

The latest “provisional agreement” / political declaration agreed yesterday, here, contains the following in the PD:

which suggests a continued EASA “associate membership”, perhaps like Norway/Switzerland.

Revised_Political_Declaration_pdf
Revised_Protocol_to_the_Withdrawal_Agreement_pdf

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

which suggests a continued EASA “associate membership”, perhaps like Norway/Switzerland.

I don’t read it that way. It reads more like cooperation and coordination rather than membership. Which would be consistent with the tone of the new proposals. I very much doubt the UK will remain a member of EASA now.

EGTK Oxford

Have to agree with @JasonC here, this doesn’t read like membership at all. Then again, these Brexit deals were all crafted in all-nighters over a few days, so I wouldn’t set to much store by the wording.

Peter,

the way it looks the new agreement poposal was not even put to the vote today. I would say, a unregulated situation on Nov 1 is close to inevitable.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

Is there any way to check the German Customs position on what would be the “real” date of brexit?

This nasty case is the context.

Post-brexit, any Brit landing in Germany will have to land at one of these i.e.

Augsburg Airport
Berlin Brandenburg Airport
- from the time of opening
Berlin-Schönefeld and Berlin-Tegel airports
- until the time of closure
Bremen Airport
Dortmund Airport
Dresden Airport
Dusseldorf Airport
Erfurt-Weimar Airport
Frankfurt Main Airport (including Egelsbach landing site)
Friedrichshafen Airport
Hahn Airport
Hamburg Airport
Hannover Airport
Karlsruhe / Baden-Baden Airport
Cologne / Bonn Airport
Leipzig / Halle Airport
Memmingerberg Airport (Allgäu Airport)
Munich Airport
Münster / Osnabrück Airport
Nuremberg airport
Paderborn / Lippstadt Airport
Rostock-Laage Airport
Saarbrücken Airport
Stuttgart Airport
Weeze Airport

The above is google translated; German original list is:

Flughafen Augsburg
Flughafen Berlin Brandenburg
- ab dem Zeitpunkt der Eröffnung
Flughäfen Berlin-Schönefeld und Berlin-Tegel
- bis zum Zeitpunkt der Schließung
Flughafen Bremen
Flughafen Dortmund
Flughafen Dresden
Flughafen Düsseldorf
Flughafen Erfurt-Weimar
Flughafen Frankfurt Main (einschließlich Landeplatz Egelsbach)
Flughafen Friedrichshafen
Flughafen Hahn
Flughafen Hamburg
Flughafen Hannover
Flughafen Karlsruhe/Baden-Baden
Flughafen Köln/Bonn
Flughafen Leipzig/Halle
Flughafen Memmingerberg (Allgäu Airport)
Flughafen München
Flughafen Münster/Osnabrück
Flughafen Nürnberg
Flughafen Paderborn/Lippstadt
Flughafen Rostock-Laage
Flughafen Saarbrücken
Flughafen Stuttgart
Flughafen Weeze

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

@Peter

Is there any way to check the German Customs position on what would be the “real” date of brexit?

I found this one:

“Brexit
Britisches Parlament stimmt am 20. Dezember 2019 für das von Boris Johnson ausgehandelte Austrittsabkommen.

Großbritannien wird daher am 1. Februar 2020 die EU verlassen.

Innerhalb der Übergangsfrist bis zum 31. Dezember 2020 ändert sich aus zollrechtlicher Sicht nichts."

Link: https://www.zoll.de/DE/Fachthemen/Zoelle/Brexit/brexit_node.html

Google translation: " United Kingdom and Gibraltar European Union membership referendum
British Parliament votes on December 20, 2019 for the withdrawal agreement negotiated by Boris Johnson.

Great Britain will therefore leave the EU on February 1, 2020.

From a customs perspective, nothing changes within the transition period until December 31, 2020. "

LSZF Birrfeld, LFSB Basel-Mulhouse, Switzerland
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