AIR Aviation Information Resources – Group
I’d help too
Wouldn’t be nice with some sort of list with local users from each country that can be of assistance when it comes to these kind of questions?
I can imagine that some countries are really hard to navigate(paperwise) if you do not speak the language or know someone that does.
If you speak the language and have some sort of experience of buying or selling an airplane in that country you could absolutely be of very good help to someone that wants to buy from that country.
I would be happy to help from Sweden.
There’s still one month remaining should you wish to change the state of licence issue.
First thing I would do is check the LAA will accept it.
Thanks Qalupalik, quite right. Probably makes the whole idea unworkable.
Looks like the only viable solution would be to import before 31st December to avoid the VAT with an Export CofA and then straight into work to convert to the UK Register. Sounds a risky and frustrating experience.
PhilG wrote:
I will be able to fly the aircraft in the UK but not in the EU with my UK issued EASA licence
No. An EASA Part-FCL licence or validation is required to fly a non-Annex I aircraft wherever it may be when the state of registry is an EASA member. Article 3 in the Aircrew Regulation.
Ask the HU CAA if you can own a hungarian registered airplane without being a resident.
For 6), the CAMO needs to physically survey the plane every 36 months.
I am in the early process of buying a SEP on the Hungarian register to be based in the UK. There are so many aspects to this I would welcome the thoughts of the EuroGA members. Here goes on my present understanding assuming worst case and there is no secret CAA/EASA deal awaiting political sign-off ……
Please offer alternative views if I am wrong.
1) I need to import to the UK before 31st December 2020 to avoid import VAT. The aircraft appears to be VAT paid and in free circulation in the EU
2) Aircraft can be owned directly by myself as a UK national and does not require intermediary Trust as with US registered aircraft
3) if I achieve the above then I will be able to fly the aircraft in the UK but not in the EU with my UK issued EASA licence
4) I can extend legality to Europe by exchanging my licence for one issued by another EASA state or re-register the aircraft in the UK To match my UK licence
5) Retaining the Hungarian CAMO the aircraft can be maintained outside of Hungary by any EASA Part 145 organisation with appropriate approvals.
6) No requirement to return aircraft to Hungary for surveys or other inspections by Hungarian CAA all the time the aircraft is under CAMO supervision.
Anything else I should consider or other Gotchas?
Thanks
Phil
Thanks for the links Tiger!
I’ll follow up after I have more info.
I can not provide any help in directions for registration because I abandoned the process of buying after visiting the plane. It was a can of trash. I was in contact with the company www.hats.hu and asked for help in case of buying the plane. At that time they replyed that they were to busy to help me. I was also in contact with:
Regina Balogh ([email protected])
Aircraft Registration Coordinator
National Transport Authority
Aviation Authority
Supervision Division
Airworthiness and Documentation Department
H-2220 Vecsés, Lincoln street 1.
Postal address: 1675 Budapest P.O. Box 41.
She can provide you with information about the aircraft e.g lien of right. These service costs a fee of 5000 HUF.