Can anyone work out why this EGHE notam exists via NOAA but not via Eurocontrol
L3435/20 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFALC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE B) 2007261200 C) 2009271500
D) SUN 1200-1500
E) VISITING GA SUNDAY DEPARTURE SLOT IS WITHDRAWN. AD REMAINS AVBL
TO SAR, MIL AND EMERGENCY.
CREATED: 20 Jul 2020 15:57:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
Maybe it was cancelled and NOAA missed the cancellation notice
Just phoned EGHE. Still active. A mystery; the man says they will re-issue it.
There was another case here with ETMN, where nothing was on EAD but NOAA had them. We modded the EuroGA airport database Notam code to handle that (if EAD returns null, go to NOAA) but it may not be a complete solution if only some notams go to one and not the other. It really complicates the code. The ETMN case is still the case right now.
Can anyone check this with popular flight planning apps? EGHE and ETMN. I would expect European apps to get it via the Eurocontrol B2B interface, and Foreflight or Garmin Pilot to get it from NOAA.
It’s visible in EasyVFR.
dublinpilot wrote:
It’s visible in EasyVFR.
In Autorouter and SkyDemon as well.
Both the airports mentioned, and the extra EGHE one?
It gets more interesting. For EGHE, Eurocontrol returns
L4068/20
Q) EGTT/QOLAS/IV/M/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE
B) 2009010701 C) 2009301730
E) WINDSOCK OBST LGT U/S
L4069/20
Q) EGTT/QOLAS/IV/M/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE
B) 2009010702 C) 2009301730
E) ANEMOMETER OBSTACLE LIGHT U/S
L4071/20
Q) EGTT/QNXAS/V/B/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE
B) 2009010704 C) 2009301730
E) VDF FREQ 124.880 MHZ U/S
L4072/20
Q) EGTT/QLAAS/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE
B) 2009010703 C) 2009301730
E) RWY 27 STROBE APPROACH LIGHT NUMBER 3 U/S
L4198/20
Q) EGTT/QLBAS/V/M/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE
B) 2009091105 C) 2009301730
E) AD IDENT BEACON 50 PERCENT
NOAA returns
L4198/20 NOTAMR L4070/20
Q) EGTT/QLBAS/V /M /A /000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE B) 2009091105 C) 2009301730
E) AD IDENT BEACON 50 PERCENT
CREATED: 09 Sep 2020 11:13:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
L4072/20 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QLAAS/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE B) 2009010703 C) 2009301730
E) RWY 27 STROBE APPROACH LIGHT NUMBER 3 U/S
CREATED: 01 Sep 2020 07:28:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
L4071/20 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QNXAS/V /B /A /000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE B) 2009010704 C) 2009301730
E) VDF FREQ 124.880 MHZ U/S
CREATED: 01 Sep 2020 07:15:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
L4069/20 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QOLAS/IV/M /A /000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE B) 2009010702 C) 2009301730
E) ANEMOMETER OBSTACLE LIGHT U/S
CREATED: 01 Sep 2020 07:08:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
L4068/20 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QOLAS/IV/M /A /000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE B) 2009010701 C) 2009301730
E) WINDSOCK OBST LGT U/S
CREATED: 01 Sep 2020 07:08:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
L3435/20 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFALC/IV/NBO/A /000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE B) 2007261200 C) 2009271500
D) SUN 1200-1500
E) VISITING GA SUNDAY DEPARTURE SLOT IS WITHDRAWN. AD REMAINS AVBL
TO SAR, MIL AND EMERGENCY.
CREATED: 20 Jul 2020 15:57:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN
Autorouter returns
EGHE APPROACH LIGHTING SYSTEM UNSERVICEABLE – L4072/20
From 2020-09-01 07:03 until 2020-09-30 17:30
RWY 27 STROBE APPROACH LIGHT NUMBER 3 U/S ⇑
EGHE OBSTACLE LIGHTS ON UNSERVICEABLE – L4069/20
From 2020-09-01 07:02 until 2020-09-30 17:30
ANEMOMETER OBSTACLE LIGHT U/S ⇑
EGHE OBSTACLE LIGHTS ON UNSERVICEABLE – L4068/20
From 2020-09-01 07:01 until 2020-09-30 17:30
WINDSOCK OBST LGT U/S
EGHE AERODROME CLOSED – L3435/20
From 2020-07-26 12:00 until 2020-09-27 15:00, SUN 1200-1500
VISITING GA SUNDAY DEPARTURE SLOT IS WITHDRAWN. AD REMAINS AVBL
Can anyone make sense of the above?
Is this an issue with the selection date? They should all be aerodrome notams.
The Autorouter ones come from a briefing produced for a flight tomorrow, but I can’t see anything in the dates which should make some disappear tomorrow.
Looks like the Autorouter missed this one, which became valid today 1105, but the briefing pack was generated 1615. Possibly their server grabs the notams once a day? If this is correct that is potentially quite dangerous.
L4198/20
Q) EGTT/QLBAS/V/M/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
A) EGHE
B) 2009091105 C) 2009301730
E) AD IDENT BEACON 50 PERCENT
but when I get the above via the telegram bot, 1620 UTC, I get
1) ★ VISITING GA SUNDAY DEPARTURE SLOT IS WITHDRAWN. AD REMAINS AVBL
TO SAR, MIL AND EMERGENCY.
2) ★ WINDSOCK OBST LGT U/S
3) ★ ANEMOMETER OBSTACLE LIGHT U/S
4) ★ VDF FREQ 124.880 MHZ U/S
5) ★ RWY 27 STROBE APPROACH LIGHT NUMBER 3 U/S
6) ★ AD IDENT BEACON 50 PERCENT
Peter wrote:
Both the airports mentioned, and the extra EGHE one?
The EGHE one that you listed.
Peter wrote:
It gets more interesting. For EGHE, Eurocontrol returns
Exactly how to you get NOTAMs from Eurocontrol? When I use EAD to get NOTAMs, I get all six — including the one about Sunday departure slots.
I use a certain website (not mine) which gets it from there. Maybe I need to look at EAD itself?
Under https://www.ead.eurocontrol.int/fwf-eadbasic/restricted/user/ino/brief_aerodrome.faces
I see only
If I tick everything I get
which is still short.
If I use this site (which gets it from god knows where, but this is what I always use for UK hacking, along with half the UK)
I get
L3435/20: Scilly Isles/St Mary’S: Aerodrome closed
Q) EGTT/QFALC/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
VISITING GA SUNDAY DEPARTURE SLOT IS WITHDRAWN. AD REMAINS AVBL
TO SAR, MIL AND EMERGENCY.
FROM: 26 Jul 2020 12:00 GMT (13:00 BST) TO: 27 Sep 2020 15:00 GMT (16:00 BST)
SCHEDULE: SUN 1200-1500
L4068/20: Scilly Isles/St Mary’S: Obstacle lights unserviceable
Q) EGTT/QOLAS/IV/M/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
WINDSOCK OBST LGT U/S
FROM: 01 Sep 2020 07:01 GMT (08:01 BST) TO: 30 Sep 2020 17:30 GMT (18:30 BST)
L4069/20: Scilly Isles/St Mary’S: Obstacle lights unserviceable
Q) EGTT/QOLAS/IV/M/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
ANEMOMETER OBSTACLE LIGHT U/S
FROM: 01 Sep 2020 07:02 GMT (08:02 BST) TO: 30 Sep 2020 17:30 GMT (18:30 BST)
L4071/20: Scilly Isles/St Mary’S: Direction finding station unserviceable
Q) EGTT/QNXAS/V/B/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
VDF FREQ 124.880 MHZ U/S
FROM: 01 Sep 2020 07:04 GMT (08:04 BST) TO: 30 Sep 2020 17:30 GMT (18:30 BST)
L4072/20: Scilly Isles/St Mary’S: Approach lighting system unserviceable
Q) EGTT/QLAAS/IV/NBO/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
RWY 27 STROBE APPROACH LIGHT NUMBER 3 U/S
FROM: 01 Sep 2020 07:03 GMT (08:03 BST) TO: 30 Sep 2020 17:30 GMT (18:30 BST)
L4198/20: Scilly Isles/St Mary’S: Aerodrome Beacon unserviceable
Q) EGTT/QLBAS/V/M/A/000/999/4955N00618W005
AD IDENT BEACON 50 PERCENT
FROM: 09 Sep 2020 11:05 GMT (12:05 BST) TO: 30 Sep 2020 17:30 GMT (18:30 BST)
