Ibra wrote:
You need difference training PA28-Warrior & PA28-Arrow: signed by FI/CRI in your logbook
To clarify what Bosco said for this specific case. There is no requirement for difference training when going from a Warrior to an Arrow unless the Arrow your first retract/VP aircraft.
I guess you understood wrong. There is no difference between LAPL vs LAPL on what is required to fly a new aircraft within the SEP (land) class.
So, familiarization (which does not even strictly require an instructor) for anything that doesn‘t have any „feature“ you haven‘t previously flown.
Differences training is only required if there is a „feature“ that is new for you. Also, take note that differences training does not require an examiner. An instructor (even just a CRI) is enough. The contents and extent of the training are at the discretion of the instructor.
LAPL does not have class & type ratings, it is restricted to SEP-L or TMG with MTOW less than 2000kg with “rolling currency” and LAPL test is restricted to class and variant (while PPL test is restricted to class)
For both,
- You need familiarisation between C152 & PA28-Warrior: you read POH on your own
- You need difference training PA28-Warrior & PA28-Arrow: signed by FI/CRI in your logbook
- You need school training and test between C152 & TMG: listed on your licence
Same people would call carbureted vs injected C172 different variants, Cherokee & Warrior different variants, black & white paint variants (while variants in EASA for SEP-L are TW, EFIS, RG, VP…TMG has no variants under it), if you are renting, you are stuck with their definition…
FCL.135.A LAPL(A) — Extension of privileges to another class or variant of aeroplane
(a) The privileges of an LAPL(A) shall be limited to class and variant of aeroplanes or TMG in which the skill test was taken. This limitation may be removed when the pilot has completed in another class the requirements below:
(1) 3 hours of flight instruction, including:
(i) 10 dual take-offs and landings; and
(ii) 10 supervised solo take-offs and landings.
(2) a skill test to demonstrate an adequate level of practical skill in the new class. During this skill test, the applicant shall also demonstrate to the examiner an adequate level of theoretical knowledge for the other class in the following subjects:
(i) Operational procedures;
(ii) Flight performance and planning; (iii) Aircraft general knowledge.
(b) Before the holder of an LAPL can exercise the privileges of the licence on another variant of aeroplane than the one used for the skill test, the pilot shall undertake differences or familiarisation training. The differences training shall be entered in the pilot’s logbook or equivalent document and signed by the instructor.
Sorry to revive the thread, but the information I’m looking for is better suited here IMO.
What I understand is that if you get an LAPL you can just fly that plane that you trained on, let’s say a Cessna 152. I’ve also seen here that the LAPL (as opposed to a PPL) mentions the information about the plane you trained on, and requires you to do a difference training if you want to rent another type of plane.
What if with a LAPL I’m looking to fly where I live, but they don’t have a Cessna 152, but a PA28, or a Robin DR400
Thank you Qualupalik. How EASA presents information in the 21st century is really a bad joke.
Peter wrote:
few people want to limit their capability, given that the training and medical-requirements difference is negligible.
To some, the medical-requirements difference is what keeps them flying. PPL’s with medicals downgraded from Class 2 are a significant part of the LAPL population.
Otherwise, I agree.
Perhaps don’t need to would be more appropriate however; they can do the dual training required for currency, differences training, aeros; towing etc and they can do the conversion to TMG or Aeroplane if required.
Thanks for those clarifications Tumbleweed
Tumbleweed wrote:
Don’t overcomplicate things
Someone recently told me CRIs can’t teach LAPL holders as the LAPL does not contain any class rating 
