Yes you need 10hrs instrument instruction – I am doing this with one person now. Basically first part of the IRR course is ideal
In EASA, there is not FI certificate, FI is a qualification on an existing license (PPL, CPL, ATPL).
If you have a CPL, you already have the 10h instrument time requirements.
If you have a PPL and don’t have a pass at the CPL or ATPL theory exams, you’ll get “Restricted, LAPL only” written next to the rating. Note that in principle expired CPL/ATPL theory exams also work.
In the EASA licensing framework there are no instructor ratings. Since the introduction of the Aircrew Regulation, instructing privileges have been granted through certificates, similar to the FAA. This means the licence on which the entitlement to act as PIC is based need not be associated with the instructor certificate, eg exercising EASA FI privileges on a G-reg flown under a British licence.
Thanks @Qalupalik. Learning every day.
Indeed, technically, it is a certificate. I’m guessing this is because some of those instructor certificates don’t require a licence to be useful (e.g. MCC).
But for the FI, for all intent and purposes, it works like a rating. It is mentioned on your license, it has an expiry, and there are some requirements to renew it.
Yes, the use of certificate over rating is further justified by three of the nine instructor certificate types requiring no licence. The rest of the world still refers to these as instructor ratings. Meanwhile, the privileges conferred by an FAA flight instructor certificate depend on the ratings it bears, making the FAA term closer to the European licence!
The provisions of FCL.900(c) and FCL.1000(c) allow UK/EASA authorities to grant instructor and examiner certificates to pilots licensed by third countries, eg FAA pilot certificate holders working as EASA flight instructors/examiners for EASA ATOs in Arizona, Oregon, and Florida, typically don’t hold a European licence.
To try to answer my initial question, in case anyone finds it useful:
To Get an FI with PPL( A ), and to be able to teach up to PPL( A ) you need the following to start instructor school:
To be able to instruct up to LAPL, while having PPL( A ) you need the following to start instructor school:
My conclusion is that in addition to requirements to teach up to LAPL, if you want to teach up to PPL(A) you also need to have passed CPL theory (or ATPL?) or be a CPL holder.
Is this correct?
(Also a bit unclear if the 200 PIC are the ones logged AFTER getting your PPL(A) or if they include PIC during PPL training)
sources:
https://www.flyforfun.eu/flying-school/professional-airplane-pilot/flight-instructor-fi-a/
https://www.pilot-training-europe.com/en/flight-instructor-training-fia/
The99percenter wrote:
To Get an FI with PPL( A ), and to be able to teach up to PPL( A ) you need the following to start instructor school … meet the knowledge requirements for a CPL(A)
You don’t need this to start the FI training.
or completed at least 200 hrs as pilot-in-command of flight time if holding a PPL(A)
The 200 hrs is the total flight time. The PIC requirement is 150 hrs.
received at least 1 hrs instrument flight instruction of which not more than five hrs may be instrument ground time in a FNPT or a flight simulator
You mean 10 hours.
sources:
https://www.flyforfun.eu/flying-school/professional-airplane-pilot/flight-instructor-fi-a/
https://www.pilot-training-europe.com/en/flight-instructor-training-fia/
I really recommend using the actual regulations as sources. In this case they are FCL.915.FI and FCL.930.FI, which are quite clear as EASA regs go.
Thank youAirborne_Again wrote:
I really recommend using the actual regulations as sources. In this case they are FCL.915.FI and FCL.930.FI, which are quite clear as EASA regs go.
Thank you, that would be the following:
https://www.aerocomsystem.com/e-system/text/list.html?text_id=9702&show_code=FCL.915.FI&part_code=FCL&limit_date=2017/02/26&type=
https://www.aerocomsystem.com/e-system/text/list.html?text_id=9720&show_code=FCL.930.FI&part_code=FCL&limit_date=2021/10/28&type=
Unfortunately I can’t edit the intial post to make it more useful and include these links.
My only question now is if the 200h total flight time of which 150h as PIC, mean only AFTER getting PPL(A) or if it includes dual and PIC during training for PPL(A).
The99percenter wrote:
My only question now is if the 200h total flight time of which 150h as PIC, mean only AFTER getting PPL(A) or if it includes dual and PIC during training for PPL(A).
It includes dual and PIC during training. Otherwise it would have been stated. E.g. the rule for the privileges of LAPL(A) holders states “Holders of a LAPL(A) shall carry passengers only if they have completed 10 hours of flight time as PIC on aeroplanes or TMG after the issuance of the licence.”
In fact, as the regulations give the conditions when you apply for the FI certificate, the FI training time can also be included.
