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CRI SET / MET question!

Hi guys,

Can a Class rating instructor (CRI) instruct on Single Engine Turbine (pc12, tbm etc etc) or Multi Engine Turbine (king air 90 or 200) if typed and have time on type???

I’m little bit confused with the following text:
FCL.905.CRI CRI — Privileges and conditions

(a) The privileges of a CRI are to instruct for:
(1) the issue, revalidation or renewal of a class or type rating for single-pilot aeroplanes, except for single-pilot high performance complex aeroplanes, when the privileges sought by the applicant are to fly in single-pilot operations;

Does it mean you can only instruct as CRI in single pilot airplanes if application is toward single pilot operation?

thanks

ESGT/ESGP, Sweden

I’d read it as so too.

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The King Air will not qualify since EASA considers it a complex aeroplane.

As CRI you can instruct for non complex airplanes towards a single pilot privilege. Need 15 hrs within the past 12 months and demonstrate ability to instruct in this class to a qualified instructor.

Hope this helps

Isn’t EASA scrapping the “complex” category, at some point?

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ABCD wrote:

the issue, revalidation or renewal of a class or type rating for single-pilot aeroplanes, except for single-pilot high performance complex aeroplanes, when the privileges sought by the applicant are to fly in single-pilot operations;

Should that be understood as:
- can instruct only for single pilot class/type rating, including high performance complex airplanes for single pilot ops
or
- can instruct for single pilot class/type rating, and not for high performance complex airplanes when the applicant trains for single pilot ops, (only for multi pilot ops)?

I think the first one is correct?

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Purely by reading the text as a legal text, it must mean this: You may instruct for single pilot airplanes, but not those that EASA considers complex, except if it is for multi pilot operations (i.e. where you are only considered a safety pilot because the airplane wouldn’t require a second pilot).

That’s weird if it’s like that. Then the question arises why would a second pilot in a single pilot complex aircraft need any instruction and for what, he legally can’t fulfill any role anyway.

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Snoopy wrote:

Then the question arises why would a second pilot in a single pilot complex aircraft need any instruction and for what, he legally can’t fulfill any role anyway.

A single pilot aircraft requires at least one pilot, but the operator can decide to fly it with a crew of two. The OPS regulations applicable to the flight may even require a crew of two (e.g. in commercial transport), even if the aircraft type certificate does not require a crew of two. That’s how PC12 or single-pilot light jets are operated by a crew of two, with the PIC and SIC (pilot and copilot, captain and first officer, …) roles.

Even in our “small plane” flying under Part-NCO, nothing keeps us from deciding on a crew of two. I think I saw an explicit reference to that in Part-NCO, but I cannot find it right now. It contained conditions like: any person the PIC designates as crew member must know they are crew, be briefed / competent for the role, etc. Roles of such crew members I can imagine: operate the radio (in general, or because you fly into a French-language airfield and don’t speak French?), assist with/perform navigation, monitor and speak up if something is not right (like e.g. you dial a different frequency that acknowledged, gear is not on three green, …).

Also consider operations like a rental club checkout flight, and instruction flights… Clearly the PIC is the instructor, clearly someone else is PF (pilot flying). That’s a crew of two.

ELLX

lionel wrote:

I think I saw an explicit reference to that in Part-NCO, but I cannot find it right now.

Ah, found it. It is in the GM:

GM1.NCO.OP.180 Simulated situations in flight
DESIGNATION OF PERSONS AS CREW MEMBERS
(a) The operator may designate any person as a crew member (including a task specialist) provided that:
(1) the role, according to the reasonable expectation of the operator, will enhance the safety of the flight or achieve an operational objective of the flight;
(2) the person, according to the reasonable expectation of the operator, is capable of fulfilling the role;
(3) the person has been briefed on the role as a crew member and informed that they are crew, not a passenger; and
(4) the person agrees to the role as a crew member.
(b) Crew members are not considered to be passengers.
(c) Crew members may be required, by specific provisions of this Regulation and other Implementing Rules, to hold licences, ratings or other personnel certificates to fulfil certain roles such as instructor, examiner or flight engineer in certain circumstances.

Last Edited by lionel at 27 Nov 23:39
ELLX

Thank you!
For single pilot certified airplanes operated non commercially / NCO can you do that as well?
E.g. two PPL holders in a Cirrus?

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