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Just to clarify: The examiner for the MPA prof check also has to be SPA SE IR privileged? (In reference to signing form and license.)

No, the ratings and the examiners signing are different.

I did my A340 rating on 4 April 2015 and it was signed off by a company TRE. My IR SPA SE was valid until 31 May 2015 so I then found an IR SPA SE examiner, showed him my A340 rating, showed him my logbook with three IFR Departures and three IFR Arrivals in SPA SE in the twelve months before 31 May 2015, showed him that my A340 and IR SPA SE ratings were still valid, and he signed my licence.

Someone signing a licence must have the privileges to examine for that rating. So now commercial TREs can no longer sign, for example, SEP (Land) Revalidations. In this case, you need to find someone who can fly and examine you for IR SPA SE and he can sign without flying, as long as both ratings are current and you’ve flown the required IFR in the twelve months preceding expiry of IR SPA SE.

CAA Standards Document 14 Part 9 is the reference.

Spending too long online
EGTF Fairoaks, EGLL Heathrow, United Kingdom

Forgot second question mark. “?”

Checkin' in smooth

Thank you.

Just to clarify: The examiner for the MPA prof check also has to be SPA SE IR privileged? (In reference to signing form and license.)

Checkin' in smooth

I think you have to do three IFR departures SE SPA as well, both ratings need to be valid (not expired) and someone with the privileges to examine IR SPA SE had to sign the form and your licence.

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EGTF Fairoaks, EGLL Heathrow, United Kingdom

Sounds good.

So you do 3 ifr approches in the SP SE piston before your MPA prof check and after the latter your SP SEP IR is valid for another year again?

Thanks!

Checkin' in smooth

Thanks Chris – really helpful.

London area

That’s great news – is than an EASA thing now?

I guess so. Here’s the flowchart from the CAA’s Standard Doc 14.

Last Edited by chrisparker at 20 May 12:14
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EGTF Fairoaks, EGLL Heathrow, United Kingdom

If you hold a type rating you can now revalidate your IR SPA by experience. I did it a few weeks ago – free! You need to have completed a type rating revalidation in a sim or an aircraft and flown three IFR departures and approaches in the previous twelve months in the SPA.

That’s great news – is than an EASA thing now? Going to make my life much cheaper!

London area

I did my IR check last week and no hood as well ;-). As we all know – having hood is by far different from being in actual IMC and loosing peripheral vision. So once you get some proficiency in IR the hood is not bringing any additional level of complexity so why to bother IMHO. Training is a whole different story – I also put some side shields.
my IR check was as mentioned above – 2 approaches (ILS+VOR).

LKKU, LKTB

I guess it’s up to each and everyone how they approach their IR PC. Is it just a thing that cost money and to “be done with”, then I guess the examiner with the least amount of requirements will suit you well. For the pilots who are waiting for their first pilot job and might not be up to the same standard as when they got their IR I can also understandard that they would like the easiest way out.

I’ve used my 2 IR PCs to train and discuss my weak spots, the parts of flying that I seldom do after getting the ticket. It feels good to bury that insecurity together with the examiner and to refresh some parts of planning, flying and quick calculations that needs to be done.

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