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STC holder permissions, and "only dealer installations allowed"

This is in the 2018 Avidyne TAS605A IM: only authorised installers get the STC approval. Not necessarily Avidyne dealers

It is the same as 7 years ago.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

“All National Aviation Authority approved installers” having access to the Avidyne STC must surely mean every licensed A&P? If so, that’s quite a shot across Garmin’s bow, and a more acceptable way of doing business.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 05 Feb 23:54

In the US context, definitely every A&P, because avionics work is under “airframe” and totally within A&P privileges.

In the European context, I’d think an EASA66 (or the post brexit CAA version) would also meet that.

But DIY installs cannot comply with the STC requirement unless you get permission from Avidyne.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

But DIY installs cannot comply with the STC requirement unless you get permission from Avidyne.

I don’t see why not. If you’re an N-reg owner installing under the supervision of an A&P, then you are an approved installer as far as the FAA is concerned.

Andreas IOM

Agreed; the A&P will sign off on it.

Same under EASA; you don’t need to have any qualification to do the actual work.

There must be exemptions on all this for Annex 1 (non Part 23 etc). Garmin have gone public with that option in the US but would not reveal details.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Even Avidyne’s statement says that the data is available on their technical publications pages. You can’t access those unless you’re a dealer and have been issued with a log-in. Garmin’s dealer installation policy is pretty much identical to every other manufacturer.

Avionics geek.
Somewhere remote in Devon, UK.

wigglyamp wrote:

Even Avidyne’s statement says that the data is available on their technical publications pages. You can’t access those unless you’re a dealer and have been issued with a log-in. Garmin’s dealer installation policy is pretty much identical to every other manufacturer.

Agree, and Garmin does not restrict the STC permission to use to its dealers, but you would have to get a copy presumably from a dealer as it is on the dealer website.

KUZA, United States

Peter wrote:

There must be exemptions on all this for Annex 1 (non Part 23 etc).

Annex 1 (generally) doesn’t need STCs so the whole thing is pretty much irrelevant. Garmin, at least, provides installation manuals for anything you want to put in non-certified aircraft.

Last Edited by alioth at 06 Feb 20:55
Andreas IOM

alioth wrote:

Annex 1 (generally) doesn’t need STCs so the whole thing is pretty much irrelevant. Garmin, at least, provides installation manuals for anything you want to put in non-certified aircraft.

That would be up to the national authority to decide, but lots of Annex 1 aircraft are certified and have an ICAO-compliant CoA. For those I expect the modification approval (e.g. STC) requirement applies.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

That’s why I wrote (generally): while some Annex 1 planes are certified, generally, they are not (generally, they are homebuilt/vintage etc)

Andreas IOM
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