mh wrote:
Just to name the ones I know were on the market in the past 5 years at least twice…
Needle in the haystack kind of aircraft 
Besides, most of those are vintage.
mh wrote:
in D, for instance, you have go go great lengths to go IR with an experimental.
Is it actually possible in Germany, IFR flight on experimental?
LeSving wrote:
Experimental: All the above + IFR
Unless it’s not that easy and not universal. in D, for instance, you have go go great lengths to go IR with an experimental.
LeSving wrote:
The problem with certified is that you cannot find one plane that fits everything.
You can’t find this in an experimental, either.
LeSving wrote:
Your best choice is a C-152 aerobat or some Yak or an old military trainer (with all their limitations).
Yeah… sure. Or a BO208, BO209, SF23, Robin 2160, RF5, RF6, CAP10, EA300LT, G115, G120, Fuji 200, Zlin 26 series, Zlin 43 series, 7GCBC, 8KCAB, Great Lakes 2T-1A-1, Siat 223, SF260, P149, Pitts S2A & S2B, My103, XA42, GB1 … Just to name the ones I know were on the market in the past 5 years at least twice…
A 500-1000mm lens does wonders for perspective
a_kraut wrote:
Microlight: safe, versatile, shiny, sometimes fast planes. Very good STOLand climb performance. IFR impossible
Experimental: sexy, fun planes with sometime very good performance. IFR impossible
Certified: safe, solid, average performance, a bit boring, high maintenance costs. IFR possible
I think the question here is to build or not to build. If the choice is not to build, then you are left with what your wallet allows and the market can supply. If thinking in terms of “mission profile” then an RV will beat them all. An RV (4,6,7,8,14) is good at everything; Short field, “fun flying”, touring, IFR, acro. This is what makes them stand out, and why there are so many of them. No matter what your “mission profile” is, an RV will fit right in. It’s like a Swiss Army knife. You can build microlights also. There is also the Sonex line of aircraft. They fly like an RV, short field, acro, high cruise speed etc (with the right engine), but are smaller. They are easier to build, but not as refined.
My list would be:
Microlight: Short field, fun flying, touring, building
Experimental: All the above + IFR, acro
Certified: All the above – building
The problem with certified is that you cannot find one plane that fits everything. Your best choice is a C-152 aerobat or some Yak or an old military trainer (with all their limitations).
Silvaire wrote:
Regardless, if I were based in Switzerland I’d choose a Jungmann if I could.
Maybe a Bestmann would be better in the cold… 
(FYI there are something like eleven Buckers at my home base, most in Swiss colors despite being Spanish built)
Mooney_Driver wrote:
And if you want to have a particularly special flight, you should come in winter and take part in either the Schlapin or Arosa fly in. I can connect you with pilots who go there.
I would love to do that.
Silvaire wrote:
Regardless, if I were based in Switzerland I’d choose a Jungmann if I could.
LOL, well, I suppose we’d be able to find you one to fly someplace.
But frankly, with our climate i always will go for something with a closed cabin and a heater.
And if you want to have a particularly special flight, you should come in winter and take part in either the Schlapin or Arosa fly in. I can connect you with pilots who go there.
MikeWhiskey wrote:
Will you attend the meeting? I wasn’t aware these monthly meetings are open for everyone, I will come-by…
Yes they sure are and we like to have new people. Next one is on the 28th at 1830 to about 2130. I am almost always there, in the last 3 years I’ve missed two I believe. There is a doodle where you can register for it, but its purely informative for the restaurant reservation.
Coda wrote:
Nice photo, but I could imagine that plane to be a large scale RC model.
How about this one of the same plane? I think the distance in the first image is distorted by the camera lens, and of course it may not be in Switzerland. I’ve had the photo for years and always been intrigued by it. This second one was apparently taken in Kestenholz CH and may have resulted in 20 years-to-life for inadequate preflight preparation Regardless, if I were based in Switzerland I’d choose a Jungmann if I could.
