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Can any European-reg homebuilts / Annex 1 use homebuilt avionics?

Here’s an article that describes the automotive trend to use both port and direct injection to overcome the weaknesses of direct injection that have become apparent in its current use on half of the automotive fleet, including the issues with super high pressure gasoline delivery. Here’s another from four years ago that describes some of the issues that DI caused, and why it didn’t really work out for gasoline engines unless you want them to make particulates like a Diesel.

I’m supporting development of an engine that will replace the Thielert on a major platform, currently in test, and I’m aware of its attributes.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 10 Jan 20:11

That technology is not dominant across gasoline engines in general,

Since 2010 direct injection is dominant across the GM engine line under the Ecotec moniker.

A similar case can be made for Ford’s Ecoboost engine line.

All engines delivered on VW / Audi group North American market models models since ca 2008 are direct injection.

BMW introduced DI on the N35 engine in 2007 and all North American market gasoline engines are now DI.

I believe that adresses (factually – right, Peter?) the “not dominant” and “out of vogue” adjectives.

With regards to car technology being “heavy” an Audi TFSI (DI) engine puts out the same HP out of a lighter 1.4l engine block, versus the previous (MPFI) engine block.

As to “impracticality” – and perhaps quite on point for EuroGA – Austro and CD engines seem helluvalot more “practical” both for aviation in general and Europe in particular now that the birth defects have been ironed out…

Last Edited by T28 at 10 Jan 19:32
T28
Switzerland

LeSving wrote:

But who knows how it is on modern car engines with direct fuel injection in the cylinders. I would imagine a positive displacement pump necessary for that, like diesel engines.

Yes, given the roughly 150 atmosphere pressure necessary for direct injection. That technology is not dominant across gasoline engines in general, seems to be going out of vogue, and more to the EuroGA point is not used in e.g. Rotax port injected aircraft engines. One good reason is to avoid high pressure gasoline leaks.

There is an interesting approach being taken on some cars in which both port injection and direct injection is used, with two different parallel fuel systems, but like a lot of car technology it’s heavy, impractical and not beneficial for aircraft.

Re Exhaust oxygen sensors, given reasonably good fuel pressure control etc, their purpose is long term: to protect sensitive exhaust catalysts and thereby ensure car emissions compliance over the years of operation required by regulation. They also allow wider variation of initial hardware calibration. None of that is relevant for aircraft engines. High performance engines without catalysts don’t need them either and the first thing you do on a modern motorcycle to make it run better is remove the catalyst and turn off the oxygen sensor in software. It will run better open loop and once individually tuned to that setup won’t go out of tune quickly.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 10 Jan 20:10

For EFI this is a design choice. Or at least that what I gather. The injectors needs a constant pressure to inject the right amount of fuel. The pump(s) are constant rpm vane pumps with a certain characteristic (pressure decreases as flow increases, in a non linear manner). Then there is a pressure control valve keeping the pressure constant. The higher the bypass ratio, the less you need to rely on the pressure control valve. The downside is larger pumps. I guess with an O2 sensor, the injectors could be adjusted continuously independent of fluctuations in pressure, it would be a “better” design also by other measures, but then you rely 100% on an O2 sensor.

High by pass ratio is therefore a simple, but more robust way of doing it.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

Yes, and that is done, but if one was returning so much to the tank, the accuracy would be poor because the net flow would be the difference between two large numbers. Flow totalisers are only just accurate enough; a loss of a factor of 10 on accuracy would render them useless. One would have to develop much more accurate sensors, and probably make a correction for temperature.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Are these engines really returning 90% to the fuel tank?

Not sure about other engines, but on a LOM Praha M337, I’d say it’s roughly 60-70% into the cylinders and 30-40% back to the tank. This is easy to estimate: on Zlin 42/43 series, fuel source is managed by the selector valve, but the excess fuel after the pump is always returned to the left tank. So when you fly on the right tank, the left one is refilled, but noticeably slower.

On the other hand, it’s always possible to install another flow sensor on the return line and subtract its readings from the main one.

LKBU (near Prague), Czech Republic

Also, the bypass ratio is pretty high, I think more than 10:1 or more

In that case a flowmeter is not going to work. Are these engines really returning 90% to the fuel tank?

The red cube flow transmitter is just a Floscan 201 turbine flowmeter, boxed so people don’t recognise a sub-$100 part made for the boating business

There is probably a “wide spread of appreciation” of fuel totalisers within GA. If one does just 1-2hr flights then it is just a toy, and indeed there is no evidence that any non-N-reg TB20 GTs which would all have suffered from this error ever noticed, let alone got it fixed. In that short-flight sector of GA, you just work on “a range of 4hrs in the POH, so if I fly for 3hrs I have 1hr left in the tanks” and mostly it is good enough. But on longer flights, the entire strategy re diversions etc is driven by the forecast LFOB (landing fuel on board) so an accurate fuel meter is a must.

It is just a thought. Other potential DIY standalone installations might be things like engine monitors, which most manufacturers don’t seem to do well. For example most of them require a lot of man-hours to wire up the probes.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Silvaire wrote:

That is one reason why exhaust oxygen is measured on some engines

Yes, but not on any factory produced EFI equipped aircraft engine. Maybe perhaps the EFI Lycoming? not sure. ULPower and Rotax (iS), which is about 99+ % of all EFI equipped engines today, the map is fixed, but adjusted for air temperature and air pressure. AVGAS (lead) will destroy O2 censors I have heard.

When I had an engine course at the ULPower factory last year in Belgium, this was one of the things I learned; a fuel flow meter is redundant and inaccurate compared with the injectors. If one injector is broken, that’s another thing, but then you will have much bigger worries than measuring the fuel flow. Also, the bypass ratio is pretty high, I think more than 10:1 or more (much more at idle than full power), you don’t want to be too reliant on the pressure reduction valve.

From a measurement point of view, even if you have 1% accuracy on your turbine meters, the overall accuracy when you need two of them and subtract two large flows to get the difference which is less than 1/10 of the scale of the meters, the overall accuracy will only be in the order of 10-20%. It’s a dead end solution. The injectors are better than 1%.

T28 wrote:

Aren’t all electric FI fuel pumps positive displacement nowadays?

More like axial compressors actually. The idea is to get a constant pressure at the injectors independent of flow. A pressure regulating valve keeps the pressure. But who knows how it is on modern car engines with direct fuel injection in the cylinders. I would imagine a positive displacement pump necessary for that, like diesel engines.

alioth wrote:

Many of us are still puttering around with an O-320-B3B though

Yes, some live in the past My impression is that this “red cube” flow transmitter is pretty standard.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

For Night or IFR the LAA has specifications about instruments, and also other items. This includes GPS models.

Maoraigh
EGPE, United Kingdom

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