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France and Germany accepts UK Permit aircraft on same basis as pre-brexit

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I’ll be waiting to see 24 pages of discussion on some of the other websites, arguing whether its overnight or overflight, the definition of overnight, whether a UK publication or LAA has legal authority to add an ‘overnight clause’ via per ICAO Annex 73b (ii), whether VFR is allowed because the word night is mentioned in the article, ad infinitum

Last Edited by Silvaire at 07 Apr 19:01

Well, members of ECAC (EU++) had fixed this already in 1981.

ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

ECAC is only for homebuilts? not factory builds?

Lot of LAA types are actually factory or ex-factory with a Permit-to-Fly
Not that anyone is able to make a difference on the ramp

In any case for flying to vintage rally or international airshows, not many give a cent about non-ICAO compliance for aircrafts or pilots, it’s pretty much open door, it’s only a problem when you fly on your own…

Last Edited by Ibra at 07 Apr 19:55
Paris/Essex, United Kingdom

ECAC is only a part-implementation – done in so many previous threads already

The specific issue with G-reg “homebuilts” is that brexit prevented them flying outside the UK. The wording of the ECAC “part implementation” apparently excluded the UK. This has now been at least partially resolved. Not many have been flying far abroad but France is always popular.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Surely the point is that homebuilts come under the NAAs and not under EASA, therefore the DGAC can allow entry to any country’s homebuilts as it sees fit as long as they comply with France’s regulations for flying kit planes in France.
I suggest that means the pilot’s licence as well.
Immigration and customs regulations are however, still dealt with at an EU level, except for current Covid regulations which are set nationaly.
Complicated or what?

France

Silvaire wrote:

the definition of overnight, whether a UK publication or LAA has legal authority to add an ‘overnight clause’ via per ICAO Annex 73b (ii), whether VFR is allowed because the word night is mentioned in the article

Hahaha

Sounds positive, though

EGHO-LFQF-KCLW, United Kingdom
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