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PLEASE HELP PILOTS....clarification of rules

Hi Gents, the other day i posted a thread, and had many helpful comments although know one could give a me a definitive answer, i will explain my dilemma again in a simpler format....

  1. I have completed a few ppl lessons in the uk and ever since ive never been more determined to to do the training for PPL with the intention on buying a plane, in the future.
  2. have since then moved to Norway temporarily and intend on being here upto 9 months. so waiting until i returned to Uk to do PPL is not an option i want to complete within the time im here.
  3. Therefore, i have been trying to gather information on where i stand regarding uk/Norwegian license, i Dont want to find out a norwegian ppl license is invalid in the uk.

Q: Is their a conversion in place for this type of situation?

so after gathering info from various people this is what i plan to do.... ( please advise on the below)

MY PLAN

  1. do practical training here. (its actually slightly cheaper here, but the beer is x3 the cost lol : \ )
  2. I am informed i can do upto 18 hours practical before the theory side must be passed to allow me to continue. 3.following a question to a norwegian instructor, "Norway only run the theory in Norwegian and not English", so ive asked if it can be translated for my use ( i assume their is barley any difference between Norway and british flight training. (Im awaiting an answer on this) AND if i do the above mentioned in point 3, can i, or will need/require to do a conversion. Because from what i gather Uk/EU Does not currently recognise Norway as part of the JAR or EEA.

Im also told from the instructor that Norway is going to be under the same umbrella very soon.

Or my other option is to see if i can aqquire the learning material from uk and take tests their before i get to my 18hr limit on the flying. ( i will be going to uk for a long weekend every several weeks.....

so gents please read and advise, you can see what Im trying to achieve, i think i need someone to tell me exactly the best way forward. And if you dont know dont guess because my head will be hurting more than it already does

thanks and best regards Nate

bristol, oslo

Norway is EASA member just like the UK so you get the very same license in either country. You can have your files moved to the UK when you leave Norway.

The good thing about Norway is that human fuel (beer) is more expensive than machine fuel (avgas). That's the way it should be.

Because from what i gather Uk/EU Does not currently recognise Norway as part of the JAR or EEA.

Of course it does. JAR is no longer, there are now EASA Part FCL licenses only (for newly issued).

EASA member states

Norway is EASA member just like the UK so you get the very same license in either country. You can have your files moved to the UK when you leave Norway.

Achim, apparently not. See the other thread, I posted +/- the same as you. Read that and then Nate's reply.

Nate: I don't know what your schedule looks like, but if you can take about a month off, go to the US and do it there. Afterwards, once you have 100 hours, convert to EASA. Much better training and much less hassle.

PS: Achim I'm afraid I strongly have to disagree re the beer price !!!

PPS: the above advice assumes the 100 hour conversion route still applies under EASA

Nate why don't you call the Norwegian CAA? Unfortunately this is clearly a specialist subject.

EGTK Oxford

You can have your files moved to the UK when you leave Norway.

As I understand it, your "home National Aviation Authority" within EASA is set by where your medical records are held....ie if Nate has a UK medical then the UK CAA will have his records....I also understand that it is not that easy to switch NAAs...

YPJT, United Arab Emirates

I find it puzzling that there is any doubt that Norway is an EASA member. It is, but since it it not an EU member, it has no voting rights when it comes to finalising EU-rules. However, according to the CAA Norway website, Norway has not yet adapted EASA-FCL, but still train and license pilots according to JAR-FCL.

I have noted that according to national regulations, it is not clear that all pilot training and certification in Norway is done according to European rules (yet), as the rules seem to allow for national (non-JAR) certification. But if training and certification is done according to JAR-FCL, the license will definitely be recognised in UK and other JAR countries, and the license will be converted into an EASA license more or less automatically at a later date (before 2017, I think).

Nate, if you would like someone other than Google to give a try on translating a Norwegian text into English, you are welcome to pm me (being Danish with two Norwegian parents I know the language, but, unfortunately, not the flying community in Norway).

I have not heard about problems moving "files" from one country to the country you reside in, but cannot say for sure. There are minor differences between countries in the formalities of maintaining flying privileges. The paperwork is done using the "papers" from the country that has your "files".

As a general rule, it is not possible to get the PPL theory in one (EASA/JAR) country and do the flying training and skill test in another. It is my experience that it only works if the country giving the skill test has specifically approved this. So I would make sure that both can be completed in the same country. However, should you wish to add an IR a a later time, and/or upgrade to a CPL, that can be done in any EASA country.

huv
EKRK, Denmark

Since I believe you are British and only on assignment in Norway, I would get a UK (EASA) Class 2 medical ( which is recognized in Norway), do your PPL theory exams in the UK, do as much flying training as you like in Norway and finish up with a UK school to get a UK (EASA) licence....then add an IMC rating before April next year...you can fly LN reg aircraft on any JAA/EASA licence

YPJT, United Arab Emirates
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