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I bet you that a UK CAA appointed examiner (a staff examiner of an “industry examiner”) is limited to UK only.

Whether this applies to every other European CAA I have no idea but I doubt they are all thus limited.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

All,

Some good news from the Belgian CAA!

I called them, referred to the new European law, and they just asked me which examiner I would prefer for the bespoke skill test. This FAA IR conversion to EASA IR along article 8 of the CB IR route might be as simple as it appears.

Once I have an assigned examiner, I will ask him on the theory part of the skill test. In the meanwhile, I will study relevant EASA ATPL portions.

I will keep you update on my progress. Wish me luck.

Niner Mike.

Abeam the Flying Dream
EBKT, LFQQ western Belgium, north France, Belgium

CB IR FTO

I’ve just got this advertising brochure via email.

Is interesting news that somebody is specialising in the conversion process.

There are some errors in there. For example there are plenty of VOR approaches around. I also don’t agree with some of the subjective stuff but most of it seems OK.

Last Edited by Peter at 25 Jun 13:53
Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I met Jim a couple of weeks ago….clearly a straight shooter…. as far as the checklists go I fail the “brakes on the P2 side” requirement…most Mooneys only have brakes on the pilot’s side….I wonder how firm this requirement is?

EGPD / OMDW / YPJT, United Kingdom

It is written in an interesting style….

EGTK Oxford

Training for CB IR on N Reg

Forgive me if this isn’t the right place.

Can I train someone towards their CB-IR on their N Reg aircraft in the UK if I have only an EASA-GB licence?

If the answer to that is no, if I get my 61.75, will my instructor ratings carry across and allow me to train under the same circumstances?

In each scenario, can I charge for my time? (My EASA licence is ATPL.)

EGKB Biggin Hill

Can I train someone towards their CB-IR on their N Reg aircraft in the UK if I have only an EASA-GB licence?

I checked this some time ago (I, too, am “only” an EASA FI but wanted to train someone on his N-reg. Cirrus) and the answer is yes. FAR61.3 (v) validates your UK license, and along with that, all its ratings.

If the answer to that is no, if I get my 61.75, will my instructor ratings carry across and allow me to train under the same circumstances?

No, a 61.75 will not carry across any instructor ratings.

In each scenario, can I charge for my time? (My EASA licence is ATPL.)

No idea. I would say: from an FAA standpoint: yes. from a UK standpoint: no, unless special permission is obtained.

Last Edited by boscomantico at 10 Oct 20:52
Mainz (EDFZ), Germany

So long as the training is conducted in the State where the licence is issued, Yes. Presumably tou are referring to the training that can be conducted outside an ATO. If you charge, it is aerial work and permission is required to use an N Reg aircraft. This is normally only granted to the owner and I believe a charge is now made.
There are no circumstances where you Instructor privileges will carry across to another licence.

Last Edited by Tumbleweed at 10 Oct 20:53

Forgive me if this isn’t the right place.

Of course it is the right place. A serious question = serious answer = EuroGA

500-1000 readers daily, too, so others in the aviation community get something out of it.

Can I train someone towards their CB-IR on their N Reg aircraft in the UK if I have only an EASA-GB licence?

Of course you can. Lots of people have done this. That’s how I did my IR in 2011/2012. Including the IRT with a CAA staff FE.

The owner needs the DfT/CAA permission (unless you don’t get paid, or the flight training is done outside UK airspace).

HOWEVER you need a legal PIC for the actual flight conditions – according to the State of Registry (FAR 61.3). 61.3 allows an N-reg to be flown anywhere in the world (outside the USA) on a license/rating issued by the airspace owner.

That leads to various permutations e.g. if both of you don’t have FAA papers, and have UK papers only, all the training has to be done in UK airspace. If say the student has an FAA PPL but no FAA IR, and you pop over to France, the actual flight conditions have to be VMC/VFR… well you get the idea. If the student has an FAA PPL/IR (like I had) then you can fly anywhere, VFR or IFR.

In an N-reg, there is no automatic requirement for the instructor to be PIC (as I believe is generally the case in a G-reg, in all ab initio training at least even where the student has another license). Of course, if the student can’t be PIC (say, no IR/IMCR and the conditions are IFR) then the instructor has to be i.e. he needs a UK issued PPL/IR and stay in UK airspace.

In your case, Timothy, based on what I know about you, you can train an FAA PPL holder in UK airspace only, and you can train an FAA PPL/IR holder worldwide. If he has no FAA papers at all, it will be UK only no matter what.

Some notes here, including latest FAA Chief Counsel opinions on the “issued” word.

If you (the instructor) own the plane, the plane needs the 100hr check (as well as the Annual, and the other servicing).

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

There is a company in Cardiff (?) that do it. They essentially charge a day rate and you use your own N reg. As long as you have a DfT permit, you are ok.

EGHS
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