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ME/IR and SE/IR

I am currently doing the ME class rating. After I am done with the ME class rating I will do the ME/IR rating. This is the setup of the school that I attend. So far I only have PPL SEP.

However, one thing that is not entire clear to me is if I will be allowed to fly SE/IR after I have acquired the ME/IR rating. Does anybody here know? Any references to regulation?

^ESM[ES]$

I think, but could be wrong, in EASA-land they’re two entirely separate ratings with no credit for either, meaning you have to keep current on both. In FAA they’re also that, but I can revalidate either SEP or MEP for my biannual and they count for both.

Keeping current is one thing.

My question is more if I acquire the SE/IR rating as well after I have passed a check-ride for a ME/IR.

Last Edited by Dimme at 14 May 14:39
^ESM[ES]$

In EASA land the MEP/IR gives you SEP/IR privileges, assuming your SEP class rating is valid, but obviously not vice versa.

Enstone (EGTN), Oxford (EGTK)

Do they explicitly print SE/IR in the license or is it a regulation I need to be able to show to somebody understandably unknowledgeable during a ramp check?

^ESM[ES]$

Mine says IR-SP-ME class/SE

Which means Single Pilot Multi Engine/Single Engine.

Then each revalidation just says ME, but, as RobertL says, that grants SE privileges.

To revalidate MEP you must do it on an MEP.

EGKB Biggin Hill

Thanks!

^ESM[ES]$

Dimme wrote:

My question is more if I acquire the SE/IR rating as well after I have passed a check-ride for a ME/IR.

Some people say it does. I believe @bookworm does a gallic shrug as he is not overly impressed with that part of the regulations

Frankly, reading Part-FCL it does not say explicitly, nor implicitly. If someone thinks different, I would be genuinely interested in what the basis is. NAA examiner guidance material would also be of interest. So I am wondering whether mileage varies from one NAA to the next.

For revalidation you do get cross-credit according to the table in appendix 8 (? from memory). So if you revalidate in SP-ME, and you have a SEP, you also get credit for SE.

Last Edited by at 14 May 16:17
LFPT, LFPN

CAA Standards Document 14 Appendix 3 (flow diagram) and the UK FEH state the cross credits and that it is only applicable on a revalidation and not renewal.

I’m intrigued by @Timothy comment that “each revalidation just says ME” as I believe the Standards Document and indeed my licence have always shown revalidation as IR-SPA-ME Class/SE

FI - FE - FICI
Oxfordshire / Glocs

Balliol wrote:

I’m intrigued by @Timothy comment that “each revalidation just says ME” as I believe the Standards Document and indeed my licence have always shown revalidation as IR-SPA-ME Class/SE

Hmmm…

Well, my revalidations are done by a very highly qualified and regarded IRE, so I’ll ask him when I see him.

EGKB Biggin Hill
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