Will post some full updates later. Our Tokol → Pecs → Dubrovnik → Tivat legs went well.
Our intention for next destination was Pescara but in typical Italian fashion getting hold of anyone is next to impossible so I’m taking Peter’s advice and not bothering.
We managed to get parking last minute in Split so that’s where we’re headed in a few hours!
LawrenceDudley wrote:
LHPP becomes €127 for customs if you fly somewhere that isn’t in the eu
LawrenceDudley wrote:
Oh now LHPP is €50.60 to Croatia
I recall a handler wants to play that trick on us Spain/Morocco, 60E for handling if the flight in Schengen and 180E outside Sshengen for 4pob, we told them we know where to find customs in big airports as they will be there with/without us and they also know how to find us, so no need for their help on that bit 
, one day later they went back to 60E but we found another handler who offered a better price
Oh now LHPP is €50.60 to Croatia. I think it might depend on the time of day, the phase of the moon and whether they’re in a good mood or not.
Change of plan. LHPP becomes €127 for customs if you fly somewhere that isn’t in the eu. Say what.
We’ll go Tokol > Pecs > Dubrovnik > Tivat.
You can say a lot of things about the EU but Schengen really does make flying around non-commercially much easier.
We’re in Hungary at the moment, at Tököl.
Pecs/Pogany LHPP said they can do customs with 24 hours notice rather than the published 72 hours (Tököl had no movement on this) for €76 so we’re going to go Tököl → Pecs → Tivat then Tivat → Dubrovnik (for avgas) → Pescara.
Thanks for helping me avoid some kind of minor international incident haha.
You can fly to Croatia (or anywhere else) from anywhere in the UK, via the GAR form system. (24hr PNR for going to a non EU destination)
But if you stop in say Germany on the way there, the German airport has to have Immigration, for both the flight from the UK and the flight to Croatia.
Fortunately it appears that all German airports have Immigration “capability” – see the later parts of this thread.
It however appears that some German airports refuse to be involved in this system, so you cannot use them. I don’t know if there is a list of these.
Ah, Croatia isn’t in Schengen. Oops! I’ll have to check on immigration here then.
Are there actual known proven cases of this?
Yes, otherwise I wouldn‘t have written it. Happened to myself.
They don‘t really „cancel“ it though. They simply don‘t process/distribute it and ask the departure airport to advise you to change the flightplan.
But of course, this is rather rare. Generally, ARO
doesn‘t really worry about customs/immigration matters (or any other mattes which are not of a „formal“ nature). Hence, in most cases the FPL will go through, so there will be no warning to the pilot that he is going to violate immigration regs.
FPLs ARE rejected by the processing ARO if they suspect that the necessary police checks are not done at the departure or arrival airfield
Are there actual known proven cases of this?
I know it’s happened in Greece (departing from a non port of entry; a lot of crap flying in all directions within ATC, and trying to bring him back on the ground on the radio) but they didn’t cancel the flight plan. The way to do this is to announce the diversion (to an airport outside Greece) when within a few mins of the border 
Of course, I know. Still, sometimes, FPLs ARE rejected by the processing ARO if they suspect that the necessary police checks are not done at the departure or arrival airfield. That’s why I mentioned it. But ultimately of course, it’s the pilot’s decision and, in the case, the pilot’s violation.
