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Petition to save Berlin-Tegel from total closing

This is an effort to raise awareness as to the irreversible long-term consequences of the planned complete shut down of flight operations at Tegel with the opening of the new BER terminals.

This is continued over from this thread

The proposal is to keep it open for use by GA and emergency services. While resulting in a huge decrease in environmental impact, it remains available for any longer-term potential use in the coming decades with new eco-friendly aero-transportation systems.

In the meantime, GA use is still compatible with some of the current planned development.

Its importance is beyond Berlin due to the iconic and terrible trend-setting of such a main EU capital resulting with one single accessible airport for GA and, worse still, emergency services and disaster relief, if Tegel shuts-down.

Please read and sign the petition here

Thanks!

Last Edited by Antonio at 29 May 09:26
Antonio
LESB, Spain

Hi! Some people have expressed concern that this petition may seem like it is only relevant for CAT and not GA, since TXL has been to date aCAT-only airport with few exceptions.

Hopefully the above picture paints the idea.

Restoring CAT at TXL after it is transferred to SXF/BER can be done but is not immediate. It is also not black and white whether this is good or bad.

The immediate point is to keep TXL open and GA is the tool to achieve that. By making TXL the main GA gateway for the city of Berlin you will also facilitate emergency services, both ordinary and those for disaster relief, and avoid a GA-upsetting trend to eliminate GA accessible airports from EU cities.

Antonio
LESB, Spain

It’s interesting that you insist on TXL. I’m wondering why. TXL is not well connected, no underground, only buses. TXL is far too big for only GA purposes. There are enough airfields around Berlin. If you need so much infrastructure for your hobby/business why resist you to go to BER. TXL consumes much airspace. Actually we have three CTRs above Berlin incl. the former THF one. Pilots around Berlin doesn’t like it. TXL was a very nice place 30 years ago, out of a taxi to off-blocks took 10 min. But now? Are you riding a dead horse?

Last Edited by Karl_Acht at 03 Jun 21:04

I’d choose Rangsdorf… I went there once.

More seriously, Washington DC went through a similar debate with DCA Washington National, the convenient airport near the city, and Dulles, the mega airport far from the city. In the end they kept both and DCA remains a very useful airport for one day trips to the area – which is what many trips to a capital city on business end up being.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 04 Jun 03:45

Karl_Acht wrote:

It’s interesting that you insist on TXL

It is simple: we do not think of TXL as it is today, but as it could be in the future: a simple, environmentally friendly, useful, GA-accessible airfield near a major city in the short-term, and who knows what in the future.

At this point all we are interested in is the landspace, the use and a fraction of the infrastructure.

This does not counter a single one of your arguments against TXL, they are simply irrelevant to our proposal:

  • We don’t need two parallel runaways or a huge added-on-over-the-years terminals.
  • We don’t need the full enchilada of STARs and SIDs and airspace, just a couple of simple RNAV LPV’s.
  • We don’t need efficient mass transport means. A simple pre-arranged taxi ride will do
  • We don’t see taxi-to-off-blocks taking any longer in TXL than it took 30 years ago if it is kept as a GA-only airfield.
  • BER and GA will not mix up well under the EU concept of airspace and airport management: it will represent all that we all currently dislike about TXL and then worse.
Antonio
LESB, Spain

Hi! Petition is now at 170, amongst other things thanks to this post in Piloten und Flugzeug , so big danke!

There are also two other petitions in support of TXL. PLease also support them:

Petition1

Petition2

Antonio
LESB, Spain
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