Noe wrote:
the NOTAM appears in BOTH skydemon and FF
I was expecting IFR notams on FF, VFR notams on SD but admin notams should be on both 
Thanks, I may try Rouen on way back from Paris one day to change from L2K 
PS: for easter weekend, I am planning Bruges/Antwerp Friday, Hague/Rotterdam Saturday, Maastricht Sunday, Lille Monday if anyone from EuroGA is flying around?
We have 4 planes so far for Rouen LFOP.
Somebody needs to test that email address and see if they reply
They do!
I wouldn’t have given you a duff email address, that would juste be mean . I go there a couple times a year, and haven’t had any sort of issue with the email.
Sadly, unlike some other airports which can be VERY flexible (if you call and ask nicely, they might say “it’s OK, it’s just you, thanks for letting us know, but we won’t bother coming”), last time they didn’t buldge on the 24h thing.
Funny thing is that if you go to the NOAA notam site and enter LFOP, you do get that top secret email address (which is not in the AIP), but it appears under the wrong heading:
LFOP ROUEN VALLEE DE SEINE [Back to Top]
C0888/19 – RFFS HOURS OF OPS AND LVL
MON-FRI LVL 5 0300-2000
EXC MON APR 08 TO APR 26 LVL 2 0700-1600
LVL 5 0300-0700 1600-2000
MON APR 29 LVL 5 0300-1800
TUE APR 30 LVL 5 0600-1800
SAT LVL 5 0400-1000
LVL 2 1000-1700
SUN LVL 5 1400-2000
LVL 2 0700-1400
EXC SUN 21 LVL 2 0700-1700
OUTSIDE THESE HOURS LVL 1 PROVIDED. 01 APR 13:39 2019 UNTIL 01 MAY 23:59 2019.
CREATED: 01 APR 13:39 2019
C0768/19 – ROUEN CTR TMA1 TMA2 HOURS OF OPS:
MON-FRI: 0400-2000
SAT : 0500-1700
SUN : 0700-2000
EXC ON APR 21: 0700-1700
MON APR 22: 0700-2000
MON APR 29: 0400-1800
TUE APR 30: 0600-1800
WED MAY 01 : 0700-1700
THU MAY 02 : 0600-1800
FRI MAY 03 : 0600-2000
EXTENSIONS AND REOPENING FOR OTHER ACFT EXC SKED, HOSPITAL OR STATA
ACFT, PPR 24HR THE LAST WORKING DAY BEFORE 1400
VIA SITA: UROAPXH
VIA FAX : 33(0)235794122
VIA TEL : 33(0)235794103
FOR HOSPITAL FLIGHT, CONTACT ‘SAMU 76’
FOR STATE ACFT, CONTACT ‘PREFECTURE DE LA SEINE MARITIME’ DUE TO
FREQUENT ACTIVATIONS OF AIRSPACE OUTSIDE PREVIOUS HOURS.
INFOACTUAL ACTIVITY: ATIS ROUEN 120.730MHZ. 31 MAR 00:00 2019 UNTIL 30 MAY 23:59
2019. CREATED: 23 MAR 12:34 2019
C0690/19 – TRIGGER NOTAM – PERM AIRAC AIP AMDT 05/19 WEF 25 APR 2019.
- CREATION OF TRAFFIC AREA U AND V
- SID VEULE 3S/3N MODIFIED. 25 APR 00:00 2019 UNTIL 08 MAY 23:59 2019. CREATED:
14 MAR 09:03 2019
C0635/19 – CUSTOMS PPR MODIFIED :
- REQUEST MUST BE SENT 24HR BEFORE
- FOR FLT FROM TUE TO SAT : AT THE LATEST ON THE PREVIOUS DAY BEFORE
1400
- FOR FLT ON SUN AND MON : AT THE LATEST ON THE PREVIOUS FRI BEFORE
1400. 08 MAR 08:36 2019 UNTIL 27 MAY 20:00 2019. CREATED: 08 MAR 08:36 2019
C0510/19 – ISOLATION AREA G CLOSED. 21 FEB 11:10 2019 UNTIL 27 MAY 12:00 2019. CREATED:
21 FEB 11:11 2019
C0433/19 – JET A1 REFUELLING HOURS:
MON-FRI:0630-1900
SAT:0700-1800
SUN:0800-1900
NO RESTRICTION FOR SANITARY AND SCHEDULED FLIGHT AND WITH PN BY MAIL
: OPERATIONS(A)ROUEN.AEROPORT.FR. 15 FEB 06:30 2019 UNTIL 14 MAY 19:00 2019.
CREATED: 13 FEB 10:09 2019
Also, “customs” is not needed for the EU, surely Yeah, I know, getting my coat But in France, Immigration = “police”.
“But in France, Immigration = “police” "
Not sure where you get that from? in most aeroports in France immigration = “douanes” in few maritime places immigration = “gendarmes” (paramilitary police), but I rarely heard “police” (civilian police) doing “customs/immigration” job, it will be a first one…
In French AIP, Immigration is normally called “police”. Customs is “douanes”.
Example:
etc…
And I assumed they would use the same terminology in their notams as they do in their AIP. Anyway, the regular flyers to France know the facilities in France: it is customs and immigration, and evidently in the notams they just call it “customs”. Are there any French airports which separate these functions? There used to be some near Paris, years ago. A rather inconclusive thread on this topic is here.
Taking the above “PPR 24HR THE LAST WORKING DAY BEFORE 1400” what does this mean, if I want to land there say 0930 UTC on Saturday?
Does it mean they must confirm the permission before 0930 UTC on Friday, or before 1400 UTC on Friday, or before 1400 UTC on Thursday?
Is Easter Friday a “working day”?
Easter Friday is a working day in France. For the other question, I would rely on the information you got in the email, ie send the information the day before at 14:00 local time latest.
Have a nice flight!
OK, but sending it at 1400 UTC on Friday means they are not getting 24hrs notice. They are getting 19.5hrs notice
