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Flying to Poland

Speaking of fuel prices, they are universally lower in Belgium than in Germany and the Netherlands. My personal favourite is Liège EBLG - a full-fledged international airport (albeit mostly a cargo one) with a landing fee of €14.

LKBU (near Prague), Czech Republic

In the standard international aviation products such as Jepps, and databases such as this and this, the word "Customs" is traditionally used to mean that you can fly there from another country.

The more subtle concepts e.g. passport controls versus customs (goods and vehicles) controls and peculiar European stuff like Schengen, are disregarded. Especially as Switzerland, Norway, and Greece disregard Schengen for all practical purposes.

It probably all goes back to the bizjet world, which is where most of the world's aviation revolves, and where nobody has the time to mess about. Your boss says his wife wants to do a spot of shopping in Kazachstan, tomorrow morning please. You plan the flight, phone the handling agent there, file the flight plan, and fly there...

Unfortunately, in stuff like the AIPs, things get confusing at times. But "real pilots" never read the AIPs (which are published to discharge the national obligations to ICAO and were never intended for a pilot to actually fly with). Real pilots pay Jepps $10k/year to present them with nice clear consistent stuff they can fly with.

The above is only slightly tongue in cheek

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I´d suggest to forget about the Airport of Entry term for this case, just look for an airfield where customs are offered and give them a call to confirm(for sure!). An excellent airport for this used to be Straubing (EDMS), but it´s a bit south of your way - no prior notice required, just fill a simple form after arrival. They´ll fax to police and ask you to wait 10-15 minutes to give them a chance to see you. They showed up only once in my several landings and later I discovered the officer was just keen on seeing a small aircraft Schönhagen (EDAZ) used to be good as well, but still probably too south for you.

LKKU, LKTB

What confuses me is if you look at Jeppesen' s airport data on Jepp FD for say EDAZ it is not described as an Airport of Entry but clearly as you say it is capable of offering all the services of an Airport of Entry.

Some of the larger airports in Germany are described as Airports of Entry others just list "Customs". If Customs are listed surely its an Airport of Entry by definition so why not list it as such.

EDAZ would be good for me. Thanks

EGNS/Garey Airstrip, Isle of Man

I can not comment on 1 but 2-4 are correct.

But at least in Germany the term airport of entry is maybe not specific enough. There are airports with customs, others with passport control and some with both.

If you want to fly that far for example my home base EDAZ south of Berlin offers both. 2h prior notice for customs, passport control is possible at any time without prior notice. Reasonable fees, AVGAS approximately 2,55 EUR.

www.ing-golze.de
EDAZ

Firstly, I'd like to thank all contributors for your most useful information. Taking my particular case then it seems to me that I need to do the following:

1) write my own Noise Certificate using FAA suggested appendix 3 form because my plane was built prior to 1980 when no noise certification was required.

2) I must fly from the UK to an Airport of Entry in either holland/ Germany or Poland. I have the range to get to Poland if I want to sit that long.

3) if I decide to land in either Holland or Germany (at an Airport of Entry) then I'm legal and can fly on to EPPT (small VFR field) in Poland?

4) if I fly on to Poland direct from the UK the I must land at an Airport of Entry (Poznan) then fly to EPPT

Have I got that correct?

EGNS/Garey Airstrip, Isle of Man

If you leave Germany to a Schengen but non EU country (i.e. Switzerland or Norway), then you do not have to use a customs airport unless you transport goods that require declaration. Most German pilots do not know this but it is officially written down.

Of course that doesn't help with the UK which is other way around and where only the UK side of things is rather straightforward (GAR).

Just to avoid any confusion there are two issues: customs and passport control.

In the Schengen area you do not require passport control

In the European tax union you do not need customs

Most countries are in both organisations but there are exemptions. For example Britain is in the tax union but not in the Schengen area. Therefore you require only passport control.

Switzerland is the other way round. They are in the Schengen area but not in the tax union. So you require only customs.

For big airport that does not matter. But some small airports only offer passport control or customs. In Germany usually passport control is easier to get than customs. Passport control is sometimes delegated to the airport employees while customs can only be handled by customs officials.

And yes once you are in Germany you can fly to Poland by just filing a VFR or IFR flight plan.

www.ing-golze.de
EDAZ

I definitely paid an extra 30 quid at Grenchen (Switzerland) some years ago because of this.

That should have been possible in Switzerland too, the VFR manual has a list of aircraft types and the corresponding noise class. Except if you have something noise-relevant changed, eg. silencer or different prop.

The Grenchen bill needs to be checked carefully, if they don't know or understand something, they don't ask but assume the most expensive option...

LSZK, Switzerland
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Aufwind GmbH
EKPB, Germany
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