Aeroplane is happy! Bruges tomorrow, Zürich then I reckon Croatia and Malta. Italy just sounds like it’s going to be a bureaucratic nightmare.
Cool, I’ll PM you my details.
LawrenceDudley wrote:
Mooney_Driver, are you about Sunday/Monday?
I am around yes. Starting night shifts on Sunday, so Monday only in the afternoon.
Mooney_Driver, are you about Sunday/Monday? Could do with picking someone local’s brains on the alps routes.
Just need to hope my aircraft’s ok, had to leave it at Gamston today with an ignition problem :-(
172driver wrote:
What I didn’t see on the calculator is transport from and to the airplane.
Basically you can be parked in Sector I or 3. Both are possible to walk but you need the handling / escort or they can drive you. Handling cost is around CHF 70.- and is obligatory, so you have to pay that in any event.
Roma Urbe is VFR, but you can fly the IAP at Ciampino and cancel IFR when in VMC and proceed to Urbe – see AIP AD2. It’s a good stop and 20 mins in a cab to central Rome.
Salerno is also a good tech stop, with spectacular views (Vesuvius). Then the route to Malta takes you past Etna.
Mooney_Driver wrote:
For an airport this size this is not very much at all.
Wow! I just tried this for fun with a C210 and two pax and got a charge of CHF 68 / EUR 58. This is amazingly cheap for a European airport that size. What I didn’t see on the calculator is transport from and to the airplane. It’s been many, many years, but I vaguely recall the ‘Little Guys’ being parked in the middle of the field somewhere. I’m sure Mooney can confirm.
Re Zurich: Charges have changed massively in the last year! The trouble there is not really the fees anymore but you need to get a slot in and out.
Handling: MFGZ Handling would be whom to talk to. They charge around CHF 70 per rotation (in and out) for <2000kg. Pricelist
Slot: You can check on this site: LSZH Slot Page which gives you the possibilities for slots and whom to call. MFGZ can arrange the slot for you or you can call yourself.
Re the charges, I just checked my recent bill, which should be identical for a SR22 and one landing and departure should be around CHF 35 for landing and 0.80 per hour without night hours (23-06LT) for parking. Passenger Charges are around 18.- CHF per outbound pax.
You can calculate it here: Charges Calculator
Be sure to set the Flight Type on the top of the page properly: Non Commercial Flight via GAC with <24 pax. Also check the arrival and departure times carefully to get a correct quote.
For an airport this size this is not very much at all.
So the things to think about is the online training, slot request (max 24 hours before) and handling request to MFGZ. Other than that, let me know when you are coming and if possible I might drop in and say hello.
Hey,
Sorry, should have added a few more details – Zürich makes sense as I have family there. It’ll be a fun experience and I can stomach the fees for that one I think. It’s a big airport, I do sort of expect them there.
If anyone is tempted by Zürich by the way bear in mind you need to do a training course (online) prior to booking in. Takes an hour or so to complete. I believe the flying school/club there offer handling at a not totally outrageous given the location (sub-£200) rate.
Croatia isn’t a bad shout, need to speak to SWMBO about it. Italy in general does sound like its a bit of a faff having had a good read of the fliegen in italien website (sadly German-only!).
The stops are so I can sell it as a holiday to my other half rather than a mad flying adventure.
Lausanne would be a great shout but it’s really far away from where I want to be in Switzerland :-(
Noe – thanks for the heads up about the possibility of getting away without handling in Malta. Did you do anything special? Or did you manage to slip through the net somehow?
Going to go and look at Croatia now…
LawrenceDudley wrote:
Luca is a painful one – €4 landing fees then quoted €150 for mandatory handling for a Cirrus
I didn’t pay any handling on a SR22 last summer. Had to pay some passenger fees, IIRC maybe around 6-10 euros / pax.
