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Which notam source - NOAA or Eurocontrol and bizzare notam time span issues

And now it is the other way round!

IPPC:

>>> EGKA (SHOREHAM)
NOTAM NIL
>>> END-OF-BULLETIN <<<

NOAA:

C5629/18 – CRANE OPR 504959N 0001646W (SHOREHAM, WEST SUSSEX) MAX HGT 100FT AGL/107FT AMSL. 11 OCT 12:23 2018 UNTIL 31 DEC 20:00 2018
C5576/18 – SHOREHAM APPROACH DOWNGRADED TO AIR-GROUND COMMUNICATION SERVICE. ALL MOVEMENTS STRICTLY PPR. 26 29-30 0700-1900, 27 0800-1900, 28 0800-1800, 26 OCT 07:00 2018 UNTIL 30 OCT 19:00 2018
C5575/18 – AD CLOSED. 22 24-25 31 1100-1200 1400-1500 1700-1730, 23 29 30 1100-1200 1500-1600, 22 OCT 11:00 2018 UNTIL 31 OCT 17:30 2018
C5571/18 – AD CLOSED. 1200-1300 1500-1600 1700-0900, 19 OCT 12:00 2018 UNTIL 20 OCT 09:00 2018
C5570/18 – AD CLOSED. 18 OCT 19:00 2018 UNTIL 19 OCT 09:00 2018
C5569/18 – SHOREHAM APPROACH DOWNGRADED TO AIR-GROUND COMMUNICATION SERVICE. ALL MOVEMENTS STRICTLY PPR. 09 12-13 16 20 0700-1900, 14 21 0800-1800, 19 0900-1700, 23 0700-1900, 09 OCT 07:00 2018 UNTIL 23 OCT 19:00 2018

Incidentally the one in bold above is incorrect; the airport was not closed today.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

Incidentally the one in bold above is incorrect; the airport was not closed today.

Today? That NOTAM wasn’t about today, which could explain why it was not on IPPC. On the NOTAMs in the NOAA list only C5629/18 and C5569/18 are valid today. C5629/18 may have been filtered away as being of less importance, but C5569/18 should be shown.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Strange stuff is going on with notam distribution.

IPPC is again working for EGKA:

>>> EGKA (SHOREHAM)
NEW TODAY
SCHEDULE: 30 1200-1300 1600-1700, 31 1200-1300 1500-1600 1800-1830
1900-0800
AD CLOSED : NOTAM EG/C5957/18
TIL 1810301900
SCHEDULE: 26 29-30 0700-1900, 27 0800-1900, 28 0800-1800
SHOREHAM APPROACH DOWNGRADED TO AIR-GROUND COMMUNICATION SERVICE.
ALL MOVEMENTS STRICTLY PPR. : NOTAM EG/C5576/18
CRANE OPR 504959N 0001646W (SHOREHAM, WEST SUSSEX) MAX HGT
100FT AGL/107FT AMSL : NOTAM EG/C5629/18

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Another strange one: LFOP here. Distribution to NOAA but not IPPC.

I wonder if they have set the wrong date range or some such?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

NOAA notams

A nice and easy to use site.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Here is another site: ICAO notams

https://www.icao.int/safety/iStars/Pages/notams.aspx

I wonder which notams this one gets Maybe 50% of one lot and 50% of the other lot

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Another funny one; LFAT this time. Three notams including this rather curious one:

C1870/19 NOTAMN
Q) LFFF/QCACI/IV/B /AE/000/020/5031N00137E011
A) LFAT B) 1907180000 C) 1910092359
E) CTL UNIT CALL-SIGN IN ENGLISH LANGUAGE : SEE AIP SUP 199/19 AVBL
ON
WWW.SIA.AVIATION-CIVILE.GOUV.FR
CREATED: 04 Jul 2019 12:12:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

Distribution to NOAA but not IPPC. This seems to be a common thing now with France.

With EGKA today:

IPPC

>>> EGKA (SHOREHAM)

NEW TODAY WEF 1908030800 TIL 1908031900
AD STRICTLY PPR. CIRCUITS MAY BE LIMITED. : NOTAM EG/C4203/19

>>> END-OF-BULLETIN <<<

NOAA

C4204/19 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QSTXX/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5050N00018W005
A) EGKA B) 1908110800 C) 1908111800
E) TWR FREQ 123.155MHZ DOWNGRADED TO A/G COMMUNICATION. AD STRICTLY
PPR.
CREATED: 02 Aug 2019 17:35:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

C4203/19 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QFALT/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5050N00018W005
A) EGKA B) 1908030800 C) 1908031900
E) AD STRICTLY PPR. CIRCUITS MAY BE LIMITED.
CREATED: 02 Aug 2019 17:32:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

C4202/19 NOTAMN
Q) EGTT/QSTXX/IV/NBO/A /000/999/5050N00018W005
A) EGKA B) 1908040800 C) 1908041800
E) SHOREHAM TWR FREQ 123.155MHZ DOWNGRADED TO A/G COMMUNICATION. AD
STRICTLY PPR.
CREATED: 02 Aug 2019 17:31:00
SOURCE: EUECYIYN

I thought IPPC was ex Eurocontrol…

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

IPPC has all three NOTAMs for both LFAT and EGKA.

The reason you only got one NOTAM for EGKA is that the other two are not valid today. If you set the validity period of your NOTAM search to include August 4 and 11, then you will get all three.

I can’t explain why you didn’t get all three NOTAMs for LFAT.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

IPPC have modified their site to deliver PDFs, presumably to stop other websites using it

Does anyone know if https://ibs.rlp.cz/notamQuery.do gets the data from NOAA or from Eurocontrol?

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Given that RLP are the Czech Air Navigation Services “Eurocontrol” would not be a far fetched guess…

tmo
EPKP - Kraków, Poland
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