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Do you often see other aircraft in the air?

Yes; we have had two apparent spammers today, who I had to clean up afterwards...

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

The 'latest' update on this thread in my browser is "lisaaxiu88 16-Sep-13 06:36". But the last one I can see is #34 by Peter on 05-Aug-13 20:44. It is just my browser having a bit of a problem?

Edit - well it was until I posted this one ;-)

Personally, and I know many disagree, I think traffic without azimuth is as much use as a chocolate teapot.

Even with my £12k TAS605 system, at least 90% of traffic it shows is never spotted even if there are 3 people looking very hard for it - despite knowing the distance and height pretty well exactly and knowing the azimuth within ~20 degrees.

Without azimuth information, you are wasting your time looking for traffic. Unless you habitually sleep in the cockpit all the way to short final, in which case a traffic report might usefully wake you up when approaching the airfield.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

It looks like SkyDemon are also looking to integrate now with the Zaon MRX, however it requires an adapter which retails at $600, but this would seemingly be better as the MRX does have an azimuth / direction display and might be overall cheaper than PowerFlarm.

... all traffic that I was made aware of by ATC (IFR in E), my IR examiner and my own eyes

But you're right of course, traffic that I don't see and that is not on my PowerFLARM does not exist.

Today it showed all traffic

That's a remarkable philosophical achievement, Achim

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I suggested this to the PowerFLARM chief designer and he was completely uninterested.

I presume you talked to the Butterfly Avionics guys at AERO. They are not the designers, the PowerFLARM box is from Switzerland, done by FLARM. Butterfly does sales and support.

I find the box to be remarkably good with the latest firmware. Today it showed all traffic. The other day it warned me of a glider that got really close and the biggest surprise was last week when I had an ADS-B target (a triangle at an exact position) and this turned out to be a microlight!

My PowerFLARM is connected to a yoke mounted Garmin 695 and sends data via TIS. The Garmin 695 does an excellent job at displaying the targets. With the latest firmware it got its own traffic screen. My 695 is hooked up to the audiopanel and I get aural traffic warnings.

I agree

If somebody built a FLARM box which does azimuth on Mode C/S targets, they would have a winner.

I suggested this to the PowerFLARM chief designer and he was completely uninterested.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

I am looking at PowerFlarm and the website says

"In summary it detects: •other ADS-B equipped aircraft without PowerFLARM •other Mode-C/S XPDR equipped aircraft ( estimated range and real altitude difference but not direction) •other aircraft with normal FLARM compatible systems "

In Europe GA where there isnt much transmitting ADS-B, isnt the limitation descriibed above (where mode-C/S aircraft will only be indicated by their range and altitude, and not direction), really makign this no more effective than a ZAON MRX (the small device). I cant see how something like SkyDemon could display another aircraft equipped only with Mode C/S if it cant show the direction.

Thoughts?

But, the USA used the carrot of TIS to get people to adopt Mode S.

There was rumour this could be enabled in the UK for very little money - has anyone heard anything concrete?

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