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loco wrote:

Tariffs may be applied retroactively, that is, to cars bought now. In the US they’re taxed +25% already.

So the end consumer would be charged tariffs for cars bought before a finding for failures of a company? i would think the courts have to say something about that.

Lots of tariffs are simply protectionist measures to keep a market for the internal producers. One more reason why EV’s are as expensive as they are. And not only EV’s. When I was looking once a few years back to replace my car, I found that the same car in the US cost 25k which cost 60 k here. (Camry Hybrid). I was tempted to buy a brand new one there in one of the outlets specialized on European customers and have it shipped and driving it from Rotterdam to home. Even with shipping and taxes it would have been 20k cheaper than here. There are quite a few import cars around here.

Still, there are others coming from far east, such as Hyundai and other Korean cars.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

At least they haven’t disabled all of their nuclear power like Germany did…

And I’m pretty sure they’ll be the first ones to spread particles in the stratosphere to slow down global warming (buying everyone precious time to decarbonize).

The US today is IMO one of the only western country (possibly with the UK) actually looking out for itself and planning long term for independence and energy. In France noone in the administration even thinks about what needs to be done in the next 50 years, let alone take concrete action.

Last Edited by maxbc at 14 May 14:52
France

And it comes along with the natural gas and oil that will be burned to charge the EV batteries that may someday be produced.

Last Edited by Silvaire at 14 May 14:40

A nice windfall for our American friends! Always good not having to depend on foreign countries for vital raw materials. Although who knows what the future brings as to materials needed for batteries. Salt hopefully.

https://netl.doe.gov/node/13692

Private field, Mallorca, Spain

Peter wrote:

No need to be rude

Apologies if I came across as rude. That was not my intention.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

It was a reaction to the video above, about that “unusual” one

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

No need to be rude, just because you have a PhD. I do my best. Too many posts imply worldwide when actually it is just one country, and a highly unusual one too.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

In Norway perhaps

The discussion was about Norway! I know that you lose context with the “moderator feed”, but please check what the discussion is about before making this kind of remark.

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

90% of vehicles sold are electric.

In Norway perhaps

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Mooney_Driver wrote:

And I think LeSving is right to say that it is in China where things happen BIG time. BYD has come up massively and has also slashed prices quite considerably, they are easily capable of starting a price war on the American and European offerings with cars which are not in the luxury segment but where normal folks will start thinking.

Agree the BYD offer is very attractive. That’s why the EU launched a probe to check if they’re being subsidized by the government. Decision should come in July. Tariffs may be applied retroactively, that is, to cars bought now. In the US they’re taxed +25% already.

LPFR, Poland
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