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Steve6443 wrote:

The first is when a guy who is nicknamed the POT-ASS decides to visit (e.g.) Berlin and has the airspace shutdown in a 60 mile radius for 2 days before he goes and one day after he’s left (come on, what’s that all about except to shove a final two fingers up at any other GA aviator?) just to ensure no-one can dive bomb a C172 onto his bonce….

When POTUS visited Stockholm some two years ago, very strange restrictions were in place, like private flights were ok, but commercial aerial work was not!

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Steve6443 wrote:

has the airspace shutdown in a 60 mile radius for 2 days before he goes and one day after he’s lef

As we have Airforce 2 sitting here with VPOTUS up in Davos and nobody has closed the airspace around ZRH, that appears to be a country related thing. Obvisouly there is a huge restricted area around Davos, but that is kind of understandable given the security situation and moreover the tremendous amount of traffic up there. I reckon some people simply take such events as a justification to exercise their pet peeves, such as the VFR ban in ZRH… totally useless but it must be satisfactory to someone.

Hi Vis jackets…. well, as it was a friend of mine whose fatal accident in the UK was the trigger for that particular ruling, I am one who would wear one of those even without anyone telling me to, particularly at night and at busy airports. After having been almost run over on my evening walk in November, I even wear it in our quiet little suburban streets at night these days….

Steve6443 wrote:

I just heard that the POT-ASS is actually an abbreviation of “President of the United States” –

That is POTUS for the President, FLOTUS for his wife.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

I have two pet hates.

The first is when a guy who is nicknamed the POT-ASS decides to visit (e.g.) Berlin and has the airspace shutdown in a 60 mile radius for 2 days before he goes and one day after he’s left (come on, what’s that all about except to shove a final two fingers up at any other GA aviator?) just to ensure no-one can dive bomb a C172 onto his bonce….

The second is the demand to wear Hi-Vis jackets……

EDIT: I just heard that the POT-ASS is actually an abbreviation of “President of the United States” – I think POT-ASS still fits better…..

EDL*, Germany

People always complaining about something.

Forever learning
EGTB

All the braindead acronyms for every single thing with more than two words.

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

alioth wrote:

The police officers arrived, waded through a waist deep stream as they didn’t know the field had a perfectly good road leading to it, saw it was just a glider outlanding, breathalyzed the pilot but stuck around to help us load the glider into the trailer – which was a bonus!

@alioth, thanks for that priceless story, in recognition of which you are formally exempted from PPR at Glenswinton – but then so is everyone else. There’s no landing fee either, as you’d expect from any Yorkshireman.

P.S. I noticed that Stephen Gardner joined Telegram last September, so perhaps you could fire your GAR info to him that way…

Glenswinton, SW Scotland, United Kingdom

My pet hates are lack of out of hours arrangements and the fact that airports are generally in the middle of nowhere with no transport options.

The lack of “out of hours” arrangements has always bugged me. In the winter it doesn’t matter too much, but during the summer it’s often put an end to my plans. Often airports close at 6pm when it’s still daylight until nearly 2300. No problem if they are happy for you to arrive and depart out of hours (after requesting suitable permission and giving whatever details/indemnities/copies of insurance that they want). But why do so many not allow you to arrive/depart under any circumstance?!

On number of occasions I’ve been stuck unable to depart due to bad weather. Then as the sun starts to get a little lower in the sky (still plenty of daylight) the sky starts to clear up. It’s a common weather pattern, which seems to happy just after the airport closes! This one has caught me out too often over the year.

The middle of nowhere problem is an ongoing one. You can land somewhere but to get to the nearest town (or even somewhere decent for lunch) involves an expensive taxi, which is only available after a long wait.

I’ve tried to sovle this with foldup bikes, but not satisfactorily. I had hopes that a “hoverboard” might be useful, but they all seem to go on fire according to the internet!

EIWT Weston, Ireland

Jacko wrote:

Attention-seeking twits who dial 999 to report a “crash” when they see a Maule landing off-airport. It’s deeply unflattering.

We did a couple of field trips to Aboyne Gliding Club. One of our members landed out (embarrassingly close to the airfield) and someone who must have been a newcomer to the area (she had a horsey accent from the south of England I think) called the police and reported a plane crash. The thing is where our guy landed out, the general area is used for outlandings all the time, sometimes you get rotor right over the airfield and everyone is instructed to land out (and IIRC there is an agreement with a local farmer to use some of the pasture land for this) and it basically rains gliders.

The police officers arrived, waded through a waist deep stream as they didn’t know the field had a perfectly good road leading to it, saw it was just a glider outlanding, breathalyzed the pilot but stuck around to help us load the glider into the trailer – which was a bonus!

Last Edited by alioth at 19 Jan 11:41
Andreas IOM

All the preflight paperwork. I didn’t learn to fly to fill in forms:

  • first, here, the Special Branch form (needed even when operating from EGNS), especially the 12 hour notice if not operating from EGNS which is draconian and unnecessary, given a police officer can drive to any place used for aviation here within 30 minutes if they really need to check someone out.
  • then PPR at the destination
  • finding out about all the weird local procedures

I seem to spend more time on pointless paperwork than actual route planning on most trips.

Also absurdly short opening hours – too many great airports only open during bankers hours during the week and even shorter hours on the weekend, and have absurd and costly procedures if you want to use the airfield out of hours.

Andreas IOM

It will be cloudy and foggy up there anyway. If it were just for the flying, I would definitely head south in this kind of season. Tuscany for example. Ideas here.

Mainz (EDFZ) & Egelsbach (EDFE), Germany
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