Ibra wrote:
Something went out of the aircraft at the end of the video?
Yes I saw that too..
In the same spirit
Something went out of the aircraft at the end of the video?
Probably more skydivers. I am told by someone working in that business that when something starts to go wrong, they head for the exit very fast – unless they cannot reach it due to the aircraft spinning or something like that.
Not sure if it is a general regulation, but here in Norway also the pilot is required to wear a chute. These things happens, and they could easily happen in a cloud with zero visibility. Jumping out is perhaps a better option in those cases.
LeSving wrote:
pilot is required to wear a chute
Only the pilot can join the Caterpillar Club if the plane subsequently crashes, because the parachutists were intending to jump out anyway
How likely is it after a stall/spin that the plane goes through the parachutists? Another video where at 3:09 and 4:00 and 4:50 it looks like they’re descending at similar speeds:
Clearly the full RWD aileron triggered the LWD wing drop. I wonder if LH (or neutral) aileron + RH rudder would have minimized the wingdrop and made it a much lesser event.
the pilot is required to wear a chute
It does come handy sometimes…
Some details from Reddit, I am not sure I understand the physics of para jumps from KingAir (I jumped from C130 few times it was doing 140kias, the door side engines were blazing low of wind )
Can’t they drop parachute jumpers with low power shallow descents with nose pointing down? say -500fpm?
https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/qm1952/an_absolutely_astounding_video_of_a_jump_ship/
PILOT’s PERSPECTIVE:
The aircraft was inspected and is undamaged.
The jump run procedure entails setting flaps 60-80 and bringing back the left engine to flight idle. We also bring the left prop back to full coarse to minimize disking of the prop. This is to enable the jumpers to egress onto the outside step, which would otherwise be difficult due to the prop & thrust blast from the left engine. There is also the added danger of the blast pushing jumpers into the left elevator. Power is kept on the right engine to maintain altitude during the jump run, which typically takes 60 seconds. A fair amount of right rudder is required to fly a straight line in this configuration. Pilot to maintain 95-90 kts IAS.
The stall and subsequent spin happened when we allowed too many jumpers on the outside step, causing an aft center of gravity and excessive blocking of the airflow to the left horizontal stabilizer. The nose then pitched up beyond the controllability of the elevator.
I anticipated the stall when I hit the elevator stop. As the wing came over, I moved the right engine power and prop levers back to the flight idle position, thereby neutralizing the engine effect from both engines, centralized the ailerons and applied full right rudder (rudder was already in quite deep in at this point). The aircraft behaved very well, and the recovery was surprisingly easy. I pulled out as gently as possible as I did not want to stress the airframe. There was some additional instability when I pulled out of the dive and pushed the throttles forward to power up, as the one engine spooled up much quicker than the other and caused another asymmetrical moment. The flaps may have inadvertently helped to keep the airspeed low. AIS showed 140kts when I pulled out.
The incident was reported to CAA within 24 hours. They investigated (including a visit to our hangar) and they seem to be happy that the aircraft was operated and flown within its STC.
In future, no more than 5 jumpers will be allowed on the outside step. We will also brief the big formations to be wary of a pitch moment of the nose of the aircraft, so they can let go should this ever happen. This will also be placarded inside the aircraft and included in our King Air briefing for new jumpers.
I am sharing the above information because skydive ops is very different from normal operations and leave people wondering why we fly certain configurations during the climb, jump run and descent.
The aircraft landed safely with the skydivers that did not exit.
The incident was promptly reported to the South African CAA and PASA national safety and training officer. The next day the jump team made adjustments to their exit procedure following discussion with the pilot and no further incidents or near-incidents were experienced.
One guy who used to do these flights told me that it is difficult to control what the jumpers do.
Peter wrote:
One guy who used to do these flights told me that it is difficult to control what the jumpers do.
Maybe if they are not briefed precisely. I believe they are aware of risks in any stage of flight and if supplied with detailed instructions (like they get for the jump), they will act accordingly.