Cobalt wrote:
A procedural service tries to separate participating aircraft, which also means that participating aircraft follow the clearances given. Otherwise it won’t work
This is advisory service, so it should be class F airspace.
Airborne_Again wrote:
This is advisory service, so it should be class F airspace.
The difference is that in Class G a service is only offered on a “workload permitting” basis…. If it were Class E the service would always need to be provided…
In G you get flight information service, not advisory service. Advisory service is an F-thing for IFR there.
LeSving wrote:
In G you get flight information service, not advisory service. Advisory service is an F-thing for IFR there.
Just saying how it is….in the UK…. In Class G you can get a Basic Service or a Traffic Service which are Information services for IFR & VFR….you can also get a Procedural service (non-radar) or a Deconfliction Service (radar) which are Advisory for IFR…. There used to be a few Class F Advisory routes here in Scotland but they have been replaced by Class E…
AnthonyQ wrote:
The difference is that in Class G a service is only offered on a “workload permitting” basis…. If it were Class E the service would always need to be provided…
Not class E, class F!
I’m not defending….just describing!
In class G, an advisory service may be available or it may not.
In class F, an advisory service must be available, but it does not have to be used by any flight.
In class E, an ATC service must be available, and all IFR flights must use it.
In classes A-D, an ATC service must be available, and all flights must use it.
bookworm wrote:
In class G, an advisory service may be available or it may not.
In class F, an advisory service must be available, but it does not have to be used by any flight.
In class E, an ATC service must be available, and all IFR flights must use it.
In classes A-D, an ATC service must be available, and all flights must use it.
Not according to SERA – and ICAO?
LeSving wrote:
Not according to SERA – and ICAO?
The phrasing of SERA does indeed suggest that advisory service can only be offered in class F — particularly the definition of “air traffic advisory service”.
According to ICAO, advisory service is exclusively a class F thing. It’s what defines class F and what makes it different from G and E.
