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LeSving wrote:

Also, why on earth cannot the flight academies operate without ATC? There must be more to this.

It could be for safety reasons because of the amount of traffic doing start- and landing exercises and training instrument approaches simultanously. There is (for different reasons) a similar situation at Västerås (ESOW) airport in Sweden which has several large training companies including OSM.

The ANSP (Aviation Capacity Resources — ACR) hasn’t been able to provide enough staff in tower (despite employing retired ATCOs) to keep the tower open as much as needed. Thus lots of training has been taking place with the tower. After a near-collision in the traffic circuit, the Swedish CAA closed down the operations on the spot. After some days of uncertainty it was reopened with PPR, new procedures for operations when the tower is closed and a ban on visiting aircraft when the tower is closed.

Last Edited by Airborne_Again at 08 Jun 10:10
ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

Peter wrote:

One would need to be totally prepared to sit at home for 2 weeks, indeed.
The fine is £1000.

Or you could fly back via Ireland for few days…

No; they blocked that route. See the latest SI, some posts back. You would have to stay in the CTA (Ireland, etc) for 14 days. They are after evidence of where you were those 14 days.

I phoned up the local police this morning. They still use the same GAR system, and as before may or may not meet you when you arrive in the UK. The “surveillance of the quarantine compliance” is something they are not involved in, they said… It’s quite possible there will be zero surveillance but do you feel lucky?

They have zero GA flights now, which is not surprising since the quarantine will totally kill them off. A stupid crude policy – should be much more granular – but we live in a world of stupid crude policies right now. In the meantime a mob of countless thousands totally breaks the law with packed riots in major cities, as well as stupidly nullifies a lot of the progress on virus containment which has been made by the rest of us, and nothing is done. Why? Because it is a political hot potato which nobody can touch. Frustrating!

The only way I see around this, legally, is to create some “essential flying for work” scenario.

Also, as EuroGA admin, if I did something dodgy, it is roughly prob100 that somebody out there will tell the police If certain things are written here, there are people who scan the forum and who will advise the subject and I get a “legal threat” within hours.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Airborne_Again wrote:

Thus lots of training has been taking place with the tower.

…closed!

ESKC (Uppsala/Sundbro), Sweden

The fine is £1000.

Or £480 up here in the PRJ.

But in any case, the UK “lockdowns” and “quarantine” (or strictly, I suppose, “quatorzine”) are now strictly voluntary. They are no longer enforceable; the BLM rioters have seen to that, God bless them.

Glenswinton, SW Scotland, United Kingdom

Yes the “word on the street” is that the quarantine is not being implemented unless you put Mickey Mouse as your name on the form.

Time will tell. This week the wx is not flyable anyway, to somewhere relevant.

Indeed it would be hilarious if self-quarantined people were monitored while large scale criminal damage was ignored. But we may yet still get that. The police usually go after the low hanging fruit.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Perhaps a nail in the coffin of going to Greece:

This Greek spike is not good news. It proves N Europeans are still infectious as hell, or at least the particular types of tourists who go to the two places mentioned: Zakynthos and Mykonos. Anybody who has been to these islands will know exactly who they are: mostly young party goers who have been frustrated with the lockdown, didn’t bother with distancing or anything else, are mostly asymptomatic (and frankly couldn’t give a toss if they were symptomatic) and now they head to Greece and infect the locals.

Brits can’t go to Greece yet (of which I am very glad) but others can.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

What happens when travellers on 14 day quarantine develop the disease, making those who shared the aircraft with them contacts, is not mentioned.
“Travellers arriving in Iceland will have to pay ISK 15,000 [€100; $113] to be tested for COVID-19 if they want to avoid a two-week quarantine upon entering the country.”
“a two-week grace period after the Icelandic borders open on June 15 during which no fee will be assessed for a COVID-19 test. Therefore, adults arriving between June 15 and June 29 will be tested for free.”
“Foreign Certificates Not Accepted
Iceland’s Chief Epidemiologist Þórólfur Guðnason announced that certificates from abroad stating that a passenger had tested negative for COVID-19 will not be accepted as a substitute for testing upon entry. The option had been discussed by authorities, but its execution proved too complicated for the time being. It may be reconsidered at a later point. Þórólfur added that authorities were looking into whether it was possible to require foreign tourists to have health insurance that covers them during their trip to Iceland.”

Maoraigh
EGPE, United Kingdom

Maoraigh wrote:

Therefore, adults arriving between June 15 and June 29 will be tested for free.”

“Fun” to read if you consider that it was virtually impossible to get tested when really necessary back in March and April. So fly to Iceland to get tested and go back same plane… mission accomplished. Ain’t it just crazy.

LSZH(work) LSZF (GA base), Switzerland

“Travellers arriving in Iceland will have to pay ISK 15,000 [€100; $113] to be tested for COVID-19 if they want to avoid a two-week quarantine upon entering the country.”

I think most Brits would gladly pay 100 quid for a test upon returning to the UK, to avoid the quarantine.

It is blindingly obvious to everybody that this is how it should be done. So why isn’t the UK doing it? Ostensibly because they haven’t got the test kits. But there could be a second agenda: stop people flying and thus mixing on the plane, and those mixing on the return flight aren’t going to have detectable infections.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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