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Brexit and general aviation, UK leaving EASA, etc (merged)

Currently, you can do any Part-FCL or Part-66 EASA exams in compliant third country centres in USA, Malaysia (previously in UAE as well)
I guess the same will apply to the UK as a third country outside EASA (tough, I predict they will get cheaper and easier )

Last Edited by Ibra at 15 Aug 22:21
Paris/Essex, France/UK, United Kingdom

So, having read the new CAA guidelines about Brexit and Pilot licencing…

You have a UK issued EASA PPL. You fly a G-Reg aeroplane and you fly a F-Reg aeroplane – currently all is rosy BUT:
After Brexit the CAA say that you will be able to fly the G-Reg, but its up to the EU if you will be able to fly the F-Reg one, but probably not as things stand.

Q:If you have a CAA PPL can you fly any G-reg aeroplane?
Q:Is it easy to switch your UK issued EASA PPL to a EU state issued EASA PPL?
Q:Do hours in a non-EASA registered aeroplane count towards EASA PPL revalidation/renewal?
Q:Do hours in an EASA registred aeroplane count towards a CAA PPL revalidation/renewal?

What would you do?

Regards, SD..

skydriller wrote:

about Brexit and Pilot licencing…

Important detail: After Brexit, in the case of a no-deal exit, ….

skydriller wrote:

Q:If you have a CAA PPL can you fly any G-reg aeroplane?

Yes (for the class/rating you have) No change from today

Nympsfield, United Kingdom

Q:If you have a CAA PPL can you fly any G-reg aeroplane?

Yes of course, worldwide. This is ICAO.

Q:Is it easy to switch your UK issued EASA PPL to a EU state issued EASA PPL?

Worst case: same process as converting or validating any ICAO PPL.

Q:Do hours in a non-EASA registered aeroplane count towards EASA PPL revalidation/renewal?

Yes, because any plane with an EASA CofA is an “EASA aircraft” (including e.g. an N-reg TB20) and they all count.

Q:Do hours in an EASA registred aeroplane count towards a CAA PPL revalidation/renewal?

Yes, same answer as above.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

If the EU had a proper justice system (not saying it hasn’t) then if, upon brexit, the EU cancelled UK-issued EASA papers, you would sue the EU and easily win – because on the front of the “certificate” it says two very specific things: (1) it is EASA-compliant and (2) it is valid till Date X. This cannot be taken away before Date X.

Of course it can. It isn’t retrospective, it is saying it was valid as it was issued by the CAA while the UK was a member of EASA. Once it leaves, it is no longer valid. Just like a valid British EU passport will cease to be an EU passport once the UK leaves even though it has not expired.

Perhaps this could be challenged but it is by no means as clear as you suggest.

EGTK Oxford

JasonC wrote:

it says two very specific things: (1) it is EASA-compliant and (2) it is valid till Date X. This cannot be taken away before Date X.

EASA licences don’t have an expiration date. JAR ones did, but EASA ones do not.

EIWT Weston, Ireland

dublinpilot wrote:

JasonC wrote:

it says two very specific things: (1) it is EASA-compliant and (2) it is valid till Date X. This cannot be taken away before Date X.

That was Peter not me.

EGTK Oxford

G-reg EASA aircraft with UK CAA paperwork (COA, radio licence, etc) at a non-UK EASA airport. Gets a ramp check on April 1st 2019 – assuming a no-deal Brexit – and said paperwork declared invalid (“not recognised”). Aircraft grounded and ‘clamped’ (or whatever they do).

A possibility?

Old dog learning new tricks

No, because it is all ICAO compliant (if the pilot has UK issued papers too).

No different to a Mongolian reg plane flown on a Mongolian license.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Let’s say the pilot/owner has a non-UK EASA PPL(A) (because that happens to be the case ) – what then?

Old dog learning new tricks
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