Airborne_Again wrote:
While non-commercial instructing for the PPL is common (in the club environment), I would think it is very unusual with non-commercial instructing for the CPL.
<shrug> my local ATO is a non-profit club, and instructs CPL, ATPL, MCC, some type ratings (yes, real type ratings for multi-engine turboprop/jet/turbofans)
Also, it would not be allowed to receive remuneration when instructing for the CPL while exercising the privileges of a PPL as the derogation that allows PPLs to receive remuneration for flight training is limited to LAPL/PPL.
Good point.
lionel wrote:
my local ATO is a non-profit club, and instructs CPL, ATPL, MCC, some type ratings (yes, real type ratings for multi-engine turboprop/jet/turbofans)
That’s some club! As much as I would liked it to be typical, I would say it’s very exceptional.
lionel wrote:
Also, it would not be allowed to receive remuneration when instructing for the CPL while exercising the privileges of a PPL as the derogation that allows PPLs to receive remuneration for flight training is limited to LAPL/PPL.
Good point.
In the EU Commission Regulation No. 965/2012 of October 5, 2012, in Art. 1 No. 1, “Commercial Air Transport Operation” (CAT Operation) is referred to in analogy to the ICAO definition as:
“Operation of aircraft for the carriage of of passengers, cargo or mail for remuneration or other consideration of monetary value.”
This clarifies that even according to the European regulations, the performance of training flights in the context of a flight school does not qualify
as “commercial transportation”, and therefore no CPL rights are exercised.
HB-JAN wrote:
therefore no CPL rights are exercised.
Yes, they are. As I have now written several times (with reference to the regs the first time), receiving remuneration for CPL training is a CPL privilege.
A pilot “exercising the privilege” of a PPL can’t get paid, no matter if the operation is commercial or not. There are a few exception to this basic rule, but training for the CPL is not one of them.
