Timothy wrote:
It is the use of the expression that is the preserve of the Right.
That may be, but all the time the Left is signalling it’s “higher moral standards” – non stop, it is a fact nonetheless. The “Greta business” is actually rather amazing in this respect. Here you have a girl who says stop talking – start acting. What do the left do? They make her a saint, a messiah, a symbol of the divine, unreachable by the common man. For the rest of us she is more of a bottle of anxiety and hatred towards society, blended with a good portion of brain washing.
Timothy wrote:
It is the use of the expression that is the preserve of the Right.
Presumably because it describes the actions of those people that identify as being on the left. Combined with the observation that the left does not seem to criticize itself or know when they go too far. (see the Edinburgh university “anti racist” event where white people are banned from asking questions and some places or antifa.)
It’ll be interesting to watch how far this gets but the possible consequences seem grossly unfair.
It’s fine providing we debate the issues. It’s the use of these expressions to stifle debate that is reprehensible.
I’m very much in favour of a CO2 tax to reduce CO2 emissions and facilitate a change towards greener technologies. But this kind of blanket tax is obviously missing the point, as the super-rich won’t be affected by a 500 CHF tax and will continue to use their biz jets like other people use cars, while grounding all the C172s, PA28s and gliders (!!!) of Switzerland will have a negligible effect on reducing greenhouse gas emissions.
LeSving wrote:
What about cars? Will they receive the same tax?
There is a new climate tax on fossile fuels per liter fuel, that is how cars are attacked, and planes in the same time as also Avgas will have this tax attached. Also heating oil will be higher taxed as it is now. All in all, the aim is for a total ban of all fossil fuels and appliances using them. So no more cars with combustion engines, no more oil heating e.t.c. from 2025 on, e.t.c. This of course will hit the middle and lower classes most, as they lack the funds to buy new cars and more so new heating.
It is part of a massive packet and was introduced into the CO 2 law by a raving communist who since many years tries to introduce small but punishing stuff into our laws. Only this time he succeeded.
The process is as follows
- This legislation has been passed by the upper house (council of states) this week.
- It will go for deliberation to the lower house after the elections in Winter. It will strongly depend on how the elections go whether the lower house will adapt it even stricter or will try to migate the provisions. At the moment it appears that there will be a left-green landslide, so they will most probably increase the burden.
- If no referendum is called on this, then it becomes law. Otherwise, the population will have to vote on it. The trouble is, that 500 franc taxes on private flights will be something which 90% of the population will not even take note off, the vote will be about the higher fuel price and possibly the airline tax. So it is quite realistic that in the envy ridden society Switzerland has bred, it will be accepted.
So Snoopy may be right but that is no reason to let the guard down, on the opposite.
In many reactions i have seen people starting to contemplate emigration. I agree. If this comes, Switzerland is no more the place I want to live in.
Mooney_Driver wrote:
All in all, the aim is for a total ban of all fossil fuels and appliances using them. So no more cars with combustion engines, no more oil heating e.t.c. from 2025 on, e.t.c.
This seems to be a common push at the moment. I have always wondered though. How do they intend farms to operate? Tractors / combines etc use a great deal of energy and I cannot see batteries being able to remotely meet this demand.
Off_Field wrote:
How do they intend farms to operate? Tractors / combines etc use a great deal of energy and I cannot see batteries being able to remotely meet this demand.
Not the only thing they don’t think about. It will make prices of farm goods so expensive that people won’t be able to afford them anymore. But the movement also wants to abolish meat, they want to kill all the cattle as it produces methan and turn us all into vegans. Or they simply increase the subsidies without which farms could not have existed for decades in this country. To the old premis that if something healty, tax it to death and once it is dead, subsidize it.
This is one hell of a somersault. Coming from ex-USSR, we thought it was our country responsible for building a true socialist society.
Turns out it’s US/Canada and now Western Europe, where raging lefties are forcing everyone to live as even Marx didn’t dare to dream.
That being said, it’s sad. Truly sad.
bad1 wrote:
where raging lefties are forcing everyone to live as even Marx didn’t dare to dream
Is there an inverted Godwin’s Law? 
bad1 wrote:
This is one hell of a somersault. Coming from ex-USSR, we thought it was our country responsible for building a true socialist society.Turns out it’s US/Canada and now Western Europe, where raging lefties are forcing everyone to live as even Marx didn’t dare to dream.
That being said, it’s sad. Truly sad.
Europe may be a mess but hardly this way. If you agree with the climate concerns, you might think this is a good rule. If you don’t then you won’t. Nothing to do with Marx.
