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A solution for "Non EU Operator" in EASA FCL?

Maybe another case exists for pilots that meet FAA medical requirements but not EASA although that is surely a small group.

It may be a small group but

  • because EASA Part Med has not been changed, they have their back against a wall, with nowhere else to go
  • they are going to become a lot bigger if the FAA does away with the Class 3 medical
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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

it has been officially validated, by lawyers, specialists and national authorities

Greg, what does officially validated mean. You just have a legal opinion or the CAA has issued a formal ruling that this is a valid non-EU operator?

EGTK Oxford

@Jonzarno

Sorry for the questions we ask, but in order to create a company in your name in Morrocco and to operate your flights afterwords, we have to know some informations, like your name, address, your aircraft, your licenses, etc.

It is clear that when you order a company via our website, a relationship based on trust is necessary. Anyway, we won’t give those informations to anyone else.

But it is wrong to pretend that you have to give those information in order to know the prices of the services: all of the services and their costs are expressly indicated in the page “e-Orders/Available services”.

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LSGG

@ julian and @what next

This sentence just means that If you want to use your CPL licence, you have to be hired by a company.
To create this one is at least a first step.
Getting an AOC is difficult indeed, but not impossible. As lawyer, I got 5 AOC for clients, including one in Morrocco.

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LSGG

@Shorrik Mk2 and @JasonC

Such worries are not justified.

One advantage of Morocco is precisely the facilities guaranteed by the Government for foreign investments.

You can read the details on this official website (ODC).

On our website, a page (here) is devoted to the reasons that led us to choose this country rather than tax havens and “letterbox” companies.

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LSGG

@achimha

As I just wrote before, Morocco is perfect for some reasons that we explain on our site.

What you say about the administration/leagl system is right, until you get there an efficient network. Since then, everything is even easier than in other countries.

Try to ask a bank here in Europe (even here in Switzerland) to open 100 accounts in 3 weeks and 800 in 6 months, with a credit card for each. And after having created so many companies with all the usual formalities… That is possible only there.

In tax havens like Gibraltar, Guernesey, Maltes, Ile de Man, Bahamas, Delaware, etc., the bank accounts opening would be impossible. This besides if you want to create real operators that operate really the flights, it was vital to open a real central office with real staff ;-)

For that too, Morocco was an ideal solution, especially if you considere that this country is close to everything (6 hours with my Comanche or 3 hours with easyJet take-off every day).

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LSGG

@Jason

Like about everything new, it is difficult to be 100% categorical. In one way like in the other…

But be sure that before we invested more than € 100’000.- to start this project, we took a lot of precautions. First I am lawyer in this branch, but I asked some other ones, independent.

And we aked directly two national authorities, so the very serious Swiss Office fédéral de l’aviation civile, which answered officially and clearly this : if the companies we create really operate the flights (and are not just fake mailboxes created in order to bypass the law), they will be considered as valid operators. AND if those operators are resident outside of EU, it has been confirmed that the restrictions of EC-216/2008 and amendements, 245/2014 and 1178/2011 don’t apply to the pilots in command.

So I am ready to offer pro bono my lawyer services, or we would pay ourselves a lawyer in other countries in order to defend a pilot who would have problems with an authority.

By the way, I thank you very much for your questions, and to share your legitimate doubts. We will be present in the Cannes AirShow, in one month, and I am sure that there will be asked the same questions. Because we would win… if the pilot during the considered flight let his company act as a real operator (flight prep/NOTAM, MET, PPR/slots, payment of all expenses, etc.).

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LSGG

OK, you got me convinced. This seems like an adequate setup for a non-EU operator and the best thing one probably can do right now.

Will be easier to create in RSM republic
Extra UE low cost !

In San Marino , small country extra UE close to Rimini will easier and cheaper!

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