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Cirrus BRS / chute discussion, and would you REALLY pull it?

How about you answer your own question and read the list?

Biggin Hill

What has the list got to do with statistics?

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

If one does an itemised critique, like the one linked above from a few years ago, one concludes that most chute pulls were in recoverable circumstances and in the absence of a chute would indeed have been recovered.

That, no doubt, is the first order reason why the fatality rate is similar. There will be other factors. The one often suggested – a reverse form of risk compensation – isn’t evident from the data; we aren’t seeing loads of chute pulls with the engine stopped above mountains etc.

To go through the full current list of ~93 will take somebody an hour, and won’t change anybody’s view. People buy the aircraft for a number of reasons (e.g. here) and the chute, with the enhanced spouse acceptance and better options in certain scenarios, is usually one of them. If you want a new plane, for that mission profile there aren’t many made nowadays. The writer also risks getting personally attacked; we don’t allow that here and I’ve already had one “admin cleanup job” yesterday when one owner left in disgust and made a bit of a mess.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

It has often been said that buying and selling GA aircraft is buying and selling dreams, literally. A chute is an item that prevents that dream from becoming a nightmare, at least in the dreams. But does that nightmare prevention item really work in the real world? It doesn’t really matter, because buying and selling aircraft is still about buying and selling dreams

The elephant is the circulation
ENVA ENOP ENMO, Norway

Well I expected cherry picking. Instead some of the comments are not just picking cherries, they’re concocting whole desserts of fantasy. How could anyone conclude that any event would have been recoverable without a Parachute?. All it would do is expose the aircraft to the risks inherent in a forced landing.

Here is the data on SRXx fatal accidents. It’s better than the average. Not equivalent. Those spouses Peter mentions may, not being emotionally attached to a particular make and model…. may be more rational than their plane owning partner….

The fatal accident rates for Cirrus aircraft averaged over 12-months (blue) and 36-months (red) compared with the NTSB reported GA fatal accident rate (green) and Personal & Business rate (thick green).:

Last Edited by Pilot-H at 24 Jan 12:19

Steve6443 wrote:

The number of times I have seen people kneeling on the seats in a Cirrus has made me want to scream. If you kneel on the seats, you risk damaging the crushable cores under the seat which provide part of the crash protection.

The problem, which some may find funny, is that women find it difficult to pee using the standard method which is the Lady Jane adaptor, unless they turn around in the seat to face to the rear of the plane, and then they are kneeling on the seat. Some males have to do the same, though I am aware of only children.

If that knackers an SR22 seat to the point where your spine gets buggered following a chute pull and you end up with serious surgery, or in a wheelchair (which is classified as merely a “serious injury” and nobody thinks much about it when they read something like that in the media) then that is pretty crap. Many even “minor” spinal injuries are life-changing; you basically cannot do a lot of things you used to do.

And presumably you cannot tell somebody has done it because the damage will be underneath the seat cushion/covering.

Pilot-H wrote:

How could anyone conclude that any event would have been recoverable without a Parachute?

OK here we go…

CAPS event #1, Oct 2002, Lewisville, TX (CAPS Save #1)
1 uninjured; Factors: VFR departure after maintenance, aileron unhinged due maintenance error and airplane became difficult to control, after maneuvering, first parachute deployment by pilot in a certified production airplane; Activation: low altitude, 1,500 feet; Weather: VMC; Landing: bushes near golf course
1 aileron left, plane flyable

CAPS event #2, April 2004, Lethbridge, AB, Canada (CAPS Save #2)
4 uninjured; Factors: VFR night cruise, loss of control, autopilot-induced stall, night VFR over mountains, SR20 performance Activation: high altitude, deployment upon loss of control; Weather: VMC night; Landing: landed in scree in mountaneous terrain, skidded backwards 1/4-mile, helicopter extraction via parachute risers
turn off the AP, push the stick forward, fly the plane

CAPS event #3, April 2004, Fort Lauderdale, FL (CAPS Save #3)
1 uninjured; Factors: confusing instrument behavior, low IMC, departure climb, water in static system; Activation: low altitude, 1200 feet; Weather: IMC; Landing: trees
fly using the working instruments

CAPS event #4, Sept 2004, Peters, CA (CAPS Save #4)
2 uninjured; Factors: VFR climb, autopilot-induced stall, rolled inverted [pilot asleep?], attempted recovery; Activation: high altitude, above 10,000 feet, activated CAPS in VMC before entering IMC; Weather: VMC, then IMC under canopy, then VMC; Landing: walnut grove
turn off the AP, push the stick forward, fly the plane

CAPS event #5, Feb 2005, Norden, CA (not CAPS Save, parachute separated from airframe)
1 fatality; Factors: severe icing at 16,000’ over Sierra mountains, high speed descent well above Vne of 204 knots; Activation: uncertain if intentional activation or due to airframe stress in high speed descent, located along track to crash site; Weather: IMC, icing; Landing: high speed impact in mountainous area
should not have been there to start with

CAPS event #6, June 2005, Haverstraw, NY (CAPS Save #5)
1 serious injury; Factors: pilot incapacitated from brain seizure, loss of conciousness, awoke and recovered from Vne dive, determined numbness and loss of function in legs; IFR on approach to KHPN, Activation: low altitude, last radar report at 1,600 feet and 190 knots groundspeed (well above Vpd of 133 knots); Weather: VMC; Landing: water, bay of Hudson River
good use for the chute

CAPS event #7, Jan 2006, Childersburg, AL (CAPS Save #6)
3 uninjured; Factors: severe icing at 9,000 feet, loss of control; Activation: high altitude; Weather: IMC icing; Landing: trees
should not have been there to start with

CAPS event #8, Feb 2006, Wagner, SD (CAPS Save #7)
2 uninjured; Factors: pilot disorientation in clouds, shortly after takeoff; Activation: low altitude; Weather: IMC; Landing: flat, frozen field
IMC without an IR?

CAPS event #9, Aug 2006, Indianapolis, IN (CAPS Save #8, parachute observed not fully deployed)
1 fatality, 3 serious injuries; Factors: IMC, loss of control, stall/spin descent; Activation: low altitude; 528 feet AGL in 100 knot spin (3-1/2 turns) just 4 seconds prior to impact, well below design parameters for survivable CAPS deployment, first activation of CAPS by non-pilot; Weather: IMC; Landing: water, pond among residential housing
IMC without an IR?

CAPS event #10, Sept 2006, Bull Bay, Jamaica (CAPS Save #9)
4 uninjured; Factors: loss of control, VFR cruise, passenger activated when fuel streaming from tank filler openings; Activation: low altitude; Weather: VMC; Landing: trees
plane fully flyable; not the first time somebody took off without filler caps (there is a video by one well known owner)

CAPS activation #11, Feb 2007, Sydney, Australia (not CAPS Save,; parachute not extracted due to anomalous rocket trajectory)
2 injuries; Factors: VFR cruise, engine problems, rocket took unusual trajectory, , successful emergency off-airport landing; Activation: low altitude; Weather: VMC; Landing: trees
did the engine actually stop?

CAPS event #12, Apr 2007, Luna, NM (CAPS Save #10)
1 injured; Factors: IMC cruise, climb to avoid weather, loss of airspeed indication, terrain warning in IMC; Activation: low altitude, inverted, 34 knots airspeed; Weather: IMC, icing; Landing: trees, mountainous terrain
forgot the pitot heater, and what was he doing flying in IMC close to terrain?

CAPS event #13, Aug 2007, Nantucket, MA (CAPS Save #11)
2 injured; Factors: VFR in IMC during approach, parachute tangled with tower wires, 1 serious injury, 1 minor injury, 1 unborn child saved; Activation: low altitude; Weather: IMC; Landing: tower, flat open terrain
VFR in IMC…again

CAPS event #14, Oct 2008, Spain (CAPS Save #12)
3 uninjured; Factors: IFR in IMC during approach, pilot reported turbulence and loss of control, parachute tangled with power line wires; Activation: low altitude; Weather: IMC; Landing: power line
must have been helluva turbulence

CAPS event #15, Nov 2008, Turriaco, Italy (CAPS Save #13 )
1 seriously injured, 3 uninjured; Factors: fuel exhaustion and loss of engine power, parachute deployed at low altitude and late in the power-off glide scenario, approximately 400 feet above ground; Activation: low altitude; Weather: VMC; Landing: trees and grass
fly with less air in the tanks?

CAPS event #16, Dec 2008, Gouvy, Belgium (CAPS Save #14 )
1 minor injured; Factors: icing, pilot attempted several outs but was unable to maintain altitude, Activation: low altitude; Weather: IMC, icing; Landing: trees
maybe a good use for chute but probably should not have flown in icing conditions

CAPS event #17, Dec 2008, Patterson, LA (CAPS Save #15)
1 uninjured; Factors: pilot reported mechanical difficulties late at night over coastal marshes; Activation: high altitude; Weather: VMC, night; Landing: canal (water)
what mechanical difficulties?

CAPS event #18, Feb 2009, Deltona, FL (not CAPS Save,, parachute did not have time to fully deploy)
2 fatalities; Factors: instructional flight practicing low-speed maneuvers, witnesses report spinning aircraft; CAPS activation immediately prior to ground impact; Activation: low altitude; Weather: VMC; Landing: trees
too low anyway

CAPS event #19, Mar 2009, Gaithersburg, MD (CAPS Save #16 )
1 uninjured; Factors: door popped open upon takeoff, pilot reported rain in the cockpit and attempted to manage door but became disoriented; Activation: low altitude; Weather: IMC; Landing: residential street
the plane will fly with a door open

CAPS event #20, Jun 2009, Mount Airy, NC (CAPS Save #17 )
1 uninjured; Factors: catastrophic engine failure with oil obscuring windscreen, Activation: high altitude, 6,000 feet above ground; Weather: IMC; Landing: level field
good use for the chute

CAPS event #21, Dec 2009, Hamilton Island, Australia (CAPS Save #18)
1 seriously injured; Factors: engine loss of power, misfueled with Jet-A, attempted return to airport; Activation: low altitude, 441 feet above ocean; Weather: VMC; Landing: ocean
good use for the chute

CAPS event #22, Feb 2010, Boulder, CO (not CAPS Save,, parachute activated due to impact forces)
2 fatalities in Cirrus, 1 fatality in tow-plane; Factors: mid-air collision between Cirrus SR20 and tow-plane with glider in tow; Activation: high altitude, 8,000 feet; Weather: VMC; Landing: level field
good use for the chute

CAPS event #23, May 2010, Sirdal, Norway (CAPS Save #19)
4 uninjured; Factors: icing induced high-speed descent followed by parachute activation, Activation: high altitude, 6,000 feet; Weather: VMC; Landing: uneven rocky terrain
why fly in icing conditions without an out?

CAPS event #24, 10 July 2010, Hornton, United Kingdom (CAPS Save #20)
2 uninjured; Factors: sprial dive while pilot distracted, VFR pilot flying in low ceilings and visibility, Activation: 2,000 feet; Weather: IMC; Landing: field surrounded by trees
must have been distracted for a while

CAPS event #25, 16 August 2010, Idabel, OK (CAPS Save #21)
2 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power, rapid descent, decision to avoid off-airport landing, activated parachute, Activation: low altitude, below 500 feet; Weather: VMC; Landing: grassy field
good use for the chute

CAPS event #26, 23 August 2010, Porter, TX (not CAPS Save,, parachute had no effect on outcome)
1 seriously injured; Factors: go-around after aborted landing, failed to clear tree obstructions, activated parachute after first impact with a tree but parachute did not affect outcome; Activation: low altitude; Weather: VMC; Landing: trees
chute was no help

CAPS event #27, 30 September 2010, Mathias, WV (CAPS Save #22)
2 uninjured; Factors: loss of control in turbulence while on approach in stormy weather, Activation: 1134 AGL, 171 KIAS; Weather: IMC; Landing: trees, remarkably the plane wedged itself on branches about 20 feet above the ground, pilot and passenger were injured when they attempted self-rescue and fell onto rocks below
must have been amazing turbulence

CAPS event #28, 15 December 2010, Nacogdoches, TX (not CAPS Save,, parachute activated after ground impact)
1 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power, decision to avoid off-airport landing; Activation: after ground impact; Weather: VMC, night; Landing: residential area
good use for a chute

CAPS event #29, 27 January 2011, Cross City, FL (CAPS Save #23 )
1 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power, decision to avoid off-airport landing, activated parachute, Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC, night; Landing: recently logged forest with lots of stumps
good use for a chute

CAPS event #30, 30 January 2011, Bennett, CO (CAPS Save #24)
1 uninjured; Factors: pilot disorientation due to vertigo, activated parachute, Activation: low altitude; Weather: VMC, night; Landing: field
good use for a chute (medical incapacitation)

CAPS event #31 , 24 October 2011, Carrollton, TX (not CAPS Save,, parachute did not have time to fully deploy)
1 fatality, 2 serious injured; Factors: pilot reported mechanical problem and attempted approach in fog, went missed, attempted second approach and plane lost control prior to missed approach point; Activation: low altitude; Weather: IMC; Landing: field
what mechanical problems?

CAPS event #32, 20 November 2011, New Orleans, LA (CAPS Save #25 )
1 uninjured; Factors: pilot reported loss of engine power and attempted return to airport then activated over Lake Pontchartrain, repacked parachute, Activation: 300 feet; Weather: IMC, day; Landing: water
good use for a chute

CAPS event #33, 7 January 2012, near Andros Island, Bahamas (CAPS Save #26 )
2 uninjured; Factors: engine seized and propeller froze in flight due to loss of oil pressure, Activation: 2300 feet; Weather: VMC , day; Landing: water
good use for a chute

CAPS event #34 , 29 February 2012, at Melbourne, FL (not CAPS Save,, parachute did not have time to fully deploy)
4 fatalities; Factors: pilot lost control on base turn to final and pulled at low altitude, Activation: almost at ground impact; Weather: VMC , day; Landing: field
chute no use in this common loss of control scenario

CAPS event #35, 24 March 2012, near Itu, Brazil (CAPS Save #27 )
2 uninjured; Factors: engine lost power and pilot avoided off-airport landing, repacked parachute, Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC , day; Landing: field
good use for the chute

CAPS event #36, 22 July 2012, near Pickens, SC (CAPS Save #28 )
4 uninjured; Factors: pilot reported mechanical problem, Activation: about 1000 feet AGL; Weather: VMC, day; Landing: trees, suspended about 20 feet above ground, occupants stayed in plane until rescued
what mechanicla problem?

CAPS event #37, 6 October 2012, near Birmingham, AL (CAPS Save #29 )
1 uninjured, 1 minor injury; Factors: pilot disoriented during missed approach in IMC , Activation: 1000’ AGL; Weather: IMC , day; Landing: field
disoriented?

CAPS event #38, 16 November 2012, near Show Low, AZ (CAPS Save #30 )
1 minor injury; Factors: engine lost power and pilot avoided off-airport landing , Activation: 1500’ AGL; Weather: VMC , day; Landing: field
good use for the chute

CAPS event #39, 21 November 2012, near Gilgandra, NSW, Australia (CAPS Save #31 )
1 uninjured, 1 minor injury; Factors: engine lost power and pilot avoided off-airport landing , Activation: 1000’ AGL; Weather: VMC , day; Landing: field
good use for the chute

CAPS event #42, 23 January 2013, near Danbury, CT (CAPS Save #32 )
3 uninjured; Factors: fuel exhaustion; Activation: TBD; Weather: night VMC; Landing: powerlines in residential area
should fly with less air in the tanks

CAPS event #43, 29 March 2013, near Alexandria, MN (CAPS Save #33 )
4 uninjured; Factors: pilot lost control due to flap anomaly; Activation: TBD; Weather: VFR; Landing: frozen lake
flap anomaly?

CAPS event #44 , 16 May 2013, near Addison, TX (not CAPS Save,, rocket did not extract parachute successfully)
1 uninjured; Factors: pilot reported loss of instruments, activated CAPS, but rocket failed to extract the parachute from the aircraft; repacked parachute; Activation: possibly 7000 feet; Weather: IMC, hard rain; Landing: pilot recovered the airplane and descended underneath the clouds to about 800’ AGL and returned to airport trailing the rocket, lanyard and incremental bridle behind the aircraft
a good save; wht instruments were lost?

CAPS event #45, 6 June 2013, near Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, United Kingdom (CAPS Save #34 )
1 minor injury; Factors: pilot reported “navigational difficulties” while on approach to Cheltenham airport when ATC changed runways and vectored the aircraft to a different approach; Activation: approximately 2000 feet; Weather: IMC; Landing: garden in a residential area of urban city
that one was a joke; there is a video of the plane descending in plenty of VMC

CAPS event #46, 5 July 2013, near La Guajira, Colombia (CAPS Save #35 )
2 uninjured; Factors: mid-air collision with Cirrus HK-4752; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: ocean
good use for the chute

CAPS event #47 , fatal accident #97, 18 July 2013, near Lanseria, South Africa (not CAPS Save,, parachute did not have time to fully deploy)
2 fatalities; Factors: low altitude activation after touch-and-go departure; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: Field
unclear

CAPS event #48, 20 July 2013, near Tappahannock, VA (CAPS Save #36 )
4 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: Trees
good use for a chute

CAPS event #49, 31 July 2013, near Poncins, France (not CAPS Save, parachute did not have time to fully deploy)
2 fatalities; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: Trees
unknown

CAPS event #50, 19 August 2013, near Texarkana, AR (CAPS Save #37 )
1 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: Field
good use for a chute

CAPS event #51, 14 November 2013, near Guaramirim, Brazil (CAPS Save #38)
3 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: Field
unknown

CAPS event #52, 4 January 2014, near Buckhannon, WV (CAPS Save #39 )
1 uninjured; Factors: mechanical, loss of engine power on final approach short of the runway; Activation: 500’ AGL; Weather: VMC; Landing: Road
good use for a chute

CAPS event #53, 6 January 2014, near Claveau, Deux Sèvres, France (CAPS Save #40 )
2 uninjured; Factors: mechanical, loss of engine power; Activation: 1800’ AGL; Weather: TBD; Landing: Field
good use for a chute

CAPS event #54, 9 January 2014, near Fort Hall, Idaho (CAPS Save #41 )
2 minor injuries; Factors: mechanical, loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: IMC; Landing: Field
good use for a chute

CAPS event #55, 14 February 2014, near Aspen, Colorado (CAPS Save #42 )
1 uninjuried- Factors: pilot reported icing to ATC; Activation: TBD; Weather: IMC; Landing: snow pack 12 feet deep
flying in icing conditions?

CAPS event #56, 3 March 2014, near Nogales, Mexico (CAPS Save #43 )
1 uninjuried; Factors: mechanical; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: Desert
mechanical?

CAPS event #57, 10 May 2014, near Lawson, NSW, Australia (CAPS Save #44 )
3 uninjuried; Factors: recovery from a spin; Activation: 2500’ AGL; Weather: VMC; Landing: residential yard, trees
stall and spin?

CAPS event #58, 12 May 2014, near China (CAPS Save #45 )
3 uninjuried; Factors: TBD; Activation: 2500’; Weather: TBD; Landing: TBD
unknown

CAPS event #59, 11 June 2014, near Burlington, MA (CAPS Save #46 )
2 uninjuried; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VFR; Landing: trees
good use for a chute

CAPS event #60, 12 October 2014, near Nishikata, Ibusuki city, Japan (CAPS Save #47 )
1 minor injury; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: field then bamboo thicket
good use for a chute

CAPS event #61, 22 October 2014, near Lexington, NC (CAPS Save #48 )
1 uninjured; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: field
good use for a chute

CAPS event #62, 23 October 2014, near Frederick, MD (CAPS Save #49 )
1 minor injury and 1 uninjured in the Cirrus; 3 fatalities in a Robinson R44 helicopter; Factors: Mid-air collision with helicopter in traffic pattern; Activation: less than 1000’; Weather: VFR; Landing: Trees
good use for a chute

CAPS event #63, 28 November 2014,near Hampton County, SC (CAPS Save #50 )
1 minor injury, 3 uninjured; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: less than 1000’; Weather: VMC; Landing: Trees
good use for a chute

CAPS event #64, 26 January 2015,in Pacific Ocean off Hilo, HI (CAPS Save #51 )
1 uninjured; Factors: Ferry flight encountered inability to transfer fuel from ferry tanks; Activation: 5500’ MSL; Weather: VMC; Landing: Ocean
a good use for a chute, but probably a dodgy ferry tank installation / inaccessible items

CAPS event #65, 1 March 2015,near Ljubljana, Slovenia (CAPS Save #52 )
1 uninjured; Factors: Low altitude collision with wires; Activation: less than 1000’; Weather: VMC; Landing: Field; Repaired and flying again as N65XP
that’s daft

CAPS event #66, 7 July 2015,near Houston, TX (CAPS Save #53 )
2 uninjured; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: less than 1000’; Weather: VMC; Landing: Residential area
good use for a chute

CAPS event #67, 22 July 2015, on Lake Wales Airport, Lake Wales, FL (CAPS fatal #109 , not CAPS Save, as parachute did not have time to deploy)
1 fatality, 1 seriously injured; Factors: reported loss of oil pressure; Activation: less than 1000’; Weather: VMC; Landing: Shrubs on airport area
loss of oil pressure but did engine actually stop? it says he landed near the airport

CAPS event #68, 16 October 2015,near Lancaster, TX (CAPS save #54) .
2 minor injuries; Factors: descent too low on approach impacting wires; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: power lines
that’s daft

CAPS event #69, 3 November 2015,near Fayetteville, AR (CAPS save #55) .
3 minor injuries; Factors: loss of oil pressure; Activation: TBD; Weather: IMC; Landing: highway, collided with pickup truck
did the engine stop?

CAPS event #70, 13 November 2015,near Ashe County, NC (CAPS save #56) .
2 uninjuried; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: field
good use for a chute

CAPS event #71, 16 December 2015,near Eastern West Virginia (CAPS save #57) .
2 uninjuried; Factors: inadvertent spin; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: trees
a stall (not paying attention) then more not paying attention and spinning… well, yeah, good use for a chute

CAPS event #72, 27 December 2015, near Watertown, WI (CAPS save #58) .
1 minor injury; Factors: reported loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: field
good use for a chute

CAPS event #73, 29 December 2015, on Coalgate, OK (CAPS save #59) .
1 uninjured; Factors: reported loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: field
good use for a chute

CAPS event #74, 8 January 2016, on Kannapolis, NC (CAPS save #60) .
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: field
unknown

CAPS event #75, 23 February 2016, on Palatka, FL (CAPS save #61) .
1 minor injury; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: Residential back yard
unknown

CAPS event #76, 29 February 2016, on Laguna Pueblo, NM (CAPS save #62)
1 serious, 3 minor injuries; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: field, high desert
good use for a chute

CAPS event #77, 5 March 2016, near Hauppauge, NY (CAPS save #63)
1 minor injury, 1 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power due to catastrophic engine failure; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: lawn of industrial park
good use for a chute

CAPS event #78, 23 March 2016, near Alexandria, LA (CAPS save #64)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: TBD
unknown

CAPS event #79, 15 May 2016, near Ailly-sur-Somme, France (CAPS save #65)
2 serious injuries; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: TBD
unknown, but a “CAPS save”??

CAPS event #80, 9 June 2016, near Frankfurt, Germany (CAPS save #66)
3 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: field
good use of the chute

CAPS event #81, 18 June 2016, near Colorado Springs, CO (CAPS save #67)
3 injured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: below 500’ AGL; Weather: VMC; Landing: slightly rolling prairie
good use of the chute

CAPS event #82, 6 July 2016, near Macon, GA (CAPS save #68)
1 injured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: rock quarry
good use of the chute

CAPS event #83, 13 August 2016, near Des Moines, IL (CAPS save #69)
4 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power on departure; Activation: 900’ AGL; Weather: VMC; Landing: road, downed power lines caused fire
good use of the chute

CAPS event #84, 28 October 2016, near Bloomfield, NM (CAPS save #70)
1 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: field
good use of the chute

CAPS event #85, 22 November 2016, near Chengju, South Korea (CAPS save #71)
3 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: Trees
unknown

CAPS event #86, 30 June 2017, near Dixon, CA (CAPS save #72)
3 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: vineyard field
good use of the chute

CAPS event #87 , 18 July 2017, near Lynchburg, VA (not CAPS Save, anomalous activation)
unoccupied; Factors: tied-down on ramp with highly charged electrical storm activity nearby; Activation: spontaneous due to static electricity; Weather: stormy; Landing: remained tied down
not relevant

CAPS event #88, 3 October 2017, near Blythe, CA (CAPS save #73)
2 uninjured; Factors: loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: field
good use of the chute

CAPS event #89, 8 April 2018, in SR22 C-GMDQ near Lowville, NY (CAPS save #74)
3 uninjured; Factors: Disorientation; Activation: TBD; Weather: IMC; Landing: frozen field
disorientation?

CAPS event #90, 9 June 2018, in SR22 G-SRTT near Benington, Hertsfordshire, England (CAPS save #75)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: field
unknown

CAPS event #91, 19 June 2018, in SR22 N764CT near Aguila, AZ (CAPS save #76)
1 serious, 1 uninjured; Factors: Catastrophic engine failure; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: desert
good use of the chute

CAPS event #92, 17 July 2018, SR22 N813MR near Slate Creek, ID (CAPS save #77)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: desert
unknown

CAPS event #93, 7 Sept 2018, in SR22T N131TX near Kennet, MO (CAPS save #78)
2 minor injuries; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: TBD
unknown

CAPS event #94, 30 Sept 2018, in SR22 N818GM near Addison, TX (CAPS save #79)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VMC; Landing: desert
unknown

CAPS event #95, 12 October 2018, in SR22T N726TG near Midland, TX (CAPS save #80)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: approx 300’ AGL; Weather: VMC; Landing: parking lot
unknown

CAPS event #96, 21 November 2018, in SR22TN N579CP near Cumberland, WI (CAPS save #81)
1 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: approx 2000’ AGL; Weather: VMC; Landing: Field; repaired, reregistered as N32WB
unknown

CAPS event #97, 29 November 2018, in SR22T N597CP near Kennesaw, GA (CAPS save #82)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: lawn/trees of school campus
unknown

CAPS event #98, 18 December 2018, in SR22 N842CD near Nogent le Roi, France (CAPS save #83)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: Muddy Field
unknown

CAPS event #99, 05 March 2019, in SR22 N345DM near Grand Turk Island,(CAPS save #84)
2 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: Ocean
unknown

CAPS event #100, 13 June 2019, in SR20 HL1258 in Korea,(CAPS save #85)
1 uninjured; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: TBD
good use of the chute

CAPS event #101, 16 July 2019, in SR22T D-EHEH near Pehritzsch, Germany,(CAPS save #86)
1 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: TBD
unknown

CAPS event #102, 27 July 2019, in SR22 N699RS near Lac-Walker, Quebec, Canada,(CAPS save #87)
1 uninjured; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: Forest
good use of the chute

CAPS event #103, 19 August 2019, in SR22 N621JE near Tappahannock, VA
1 seriously injured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: Trees, swamp
unknown

CAPS event #104, 22 August 2019, in SR22 N404PE near Mount Mitchell, NC,(CAPS save #89)
2 minor injuries; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: Trees
unknown

CAPS event #105, 1 September 2019, in SR22 N878SR near Foley, AL,(CAPS save #90)
4 uninjured; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: TBD; Landing: Field
unknown

CAPS event #106, 13 September 2019, in SR22 N578CP near Fort Wayne, IN,(CAPS save #91)
2 minor injuries; Factors: TBD; Activation: TBD; Weather: VFR; Landing: Field
unknown

Most Recent Event
CAPS event #107, 14 September 2019, in SR20 N200Z near Lake Charles, LA,(CAPS save #92)
2 uninjuried; Factors: Loss of engine power; Activation: TBD; Weather: VFR; Landing: Swamp
unknown

In my comments I have followed these rules:

  • the suggestion of some owners here that a Cirrus cannot be force landed so have put “good use for a chute” on every engine related case (this is certain to be largely bogus statistically because it is simply saying that a Cirrus pilot cannot do an off-runway landing ever)
  • any “loss of power” is assumed to be total, non recoverable and catastrophic (also bogus statistically because only a small % of failures are a total stoppage)
  • any with no data are “unknown”; there are many of these and this is weird because surely the pilot would like to help the community by making a full disclosure?
  • any with the word “reported” were assumed to be real; this is not likely to be good data because some of the events do state the engine actually failed, so “reported” doesn’t sound trustworthy… again, as above, why doesn’t the pilot supply the data? Did the insurance company take the plane away and nobody looked at the engine? I would bet that many of these “reported” ones were due to empty tanks but nobody wants to admit that.

As noted here, there is a significant % of engine failures, although most of these are unverified and appear to be just a pilot report.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

The energy absorbing honeycomb is (or shoud be) inspected as part of the annual. Its very economical to replace.

So there’s little to fear from incontinent passengers…. well little to fear in terms of seat damage anyway :-)

incontinent passengers

??

That’s pretty cruel, especially for a Cirrus which will be pretty well wasted flying short trips down the road.

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Ultimately, this thread will potentially be read by new pilots, who will transition onto Cirrus (or any other BRS equipped aircraft) and want to find out as much as possible about them.

If you are interested in flying a Cirrus BRS equipped aircraft, this post is addressed to you.

Cirrus has made a huge effort to reach out to you. Take their training, follow the advice in the POH.

*Do not allow yourself to be influenced by advice on CAPS usage by pilots who don’t have that option in the airframe in which they are deeply invested. Their reasons for belittling the system, and the pilots who use it may owe more to psychology than aviation.

There has been some discussion regarding early failures to use CAPS, that some pilots allowed this kind of peer pressure to overcome their decision making, so in a way, these opinions, cited by experienced, non-CAPS equipped pilots, may carry the weight of authority that leads you to make a fatal error.

Essentially, if you are a newbie Cirrus pilot; do not factor in anything you read on internet forums into your opinion on whether to use CAPS for real (not even this post!)

Follow the POH, get proper Cirrus conversion training from a CSIP ( (Cirrus Standardized Instructor Pilot) or the equivalent if you are transitioning to any other BRS type).

And with that, I will now follow Bosmantico’s sage advice

Additionally to the POH Cirrus has a very respectable FOM. The interactive I-FOM version is impressive (paid content):
https://books.apple.com/us/book/flight-operations-manual/id1072487639

https://cirrusaircraft.com/cirrus-aircraft-ifom/

And with that, I will now follow Bosmantico’s sage advice

Same here.

always learning
LO__, Austria
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