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ATC asking if you have oxygen

I got this in France on Sunday. We were at FL150 and ATC asked if we had pressurisation or oxygen

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

every single Corvalis/Columbia (the turbo one) I’ve ever seen was flying at FL100.

…ergo the ones not seen could be at a different level. We normally flight plan the Columbia 400 at +FL180. Never been asked about O2, but ATC (UK, France, Italy, etc.) sometimes query aircraft type.

NeilC
EGPT, LMML

They were active up to FL160 that day, hence the amusing response. I didn’t mind at all – thought it was funny.

Incidentally, that is the only time I’ve ever not been able to cross that area, yet I know loads of people automatically go round it. There’s no harm in asking… if in fact you even have to ask – a lot of the time, there’s just a recorded message.

It’s quite interesting flying over Salisbury plain. You feel like you’re doing something a little bit naughty and that you shouldn’t really be there. That said, there’s bugger all to see though!

UNL is used in the AIP and is defined simply as “unlimited”.
So that would mean that the restriction applies at any (atmospheric) altitude.

So, unless you can make it into low earth orbit, it might be easier just to go round it.

KHWD- Hayward California; EGTN Enstone Oxfordshire, United States

I think UNL basically means “This (VFR) chart only shows features up to a certain FL (which is listed at the front) and this particular feature exceeds that FL).”

I can’t imagine the ISS having to ask some LARS for a DACS every time their orbit happens to be over that particular DA.

Is UNL higher than FL500 ?

huv
EKRK, Denmark

Some of those areas go up to FL500 though

Maybe he was pulling your leg, though I wouldn’t have put it that way (to a pilot) myself…

Administrator
Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Called up Salisbury for a danger area crossing service a while back and the reply was ‘do you have oxygen?’

It made me chuckle…

I thought you might have been talking about the UK. I participated in a NATStraining day recently and hypoxia, how to recognise it and what to do if you suspect it was a subject they were doing a lot of training on. This in the context of the two hypoxia related fatal accidents in the States recently.

London area

Yes, but maybe the mission profile sets the altitude.

There was an SR22 based at Shoreham (now at the bottom of the sea) which seemed to spend most of its time flying a girl (not always the same one) to Le Touquet, and similar short runs. In fact its very last flight was to Le Touquet.

I am sure it’s different in the USA but here in Europe I don’t see many of the modern models pushing the envelope much. Of course there are exceptions but most just get used for burger runs – the more classy burger runs however

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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