Yes, it will probably be a good thing having this information published by Avioportolano rather than ENAC. We shall see.
We are awaiting ENAC authorization to shortly start publishing the official data of registered airfields and helipads currently active and practicable.
That doesn‘t sound like it will be anytime soon though… 
boscomantico wrote:
ENAC is the party for which the information is collected.
It seems they may have delegated some of that: I just received the below
[edited to add that I thought you were referring to airfield data, as required in the new regulation, not aircraft operator data, which I now realize is the case in your quote]
Avioportolano wrote:
ENAC / AVIOPORTOLANO AgreementHi ,
On 29 April 2024, ENAC and AVIOPORTOLANO formalised the agreement according to which the management and official publication of registered airfield and helipad data will take place through the AAI-Avioportolano Aeronautical Information portal accessible free of charge at www.webAAI.it.Site undergoing technical revision. With apologies to users, we would like to inform you that the AAI Avioportolano Aeronautical Information portal is temporarily suspended for updates about registered airfields and Helisurfaces following the adjustments provided for in the new Regulation on the liberalisation of the use of these landing areas.
Active and practicable registered airfields and helipads. We are awaiting ENAC authorization to shortly start publishing the official data of registered airfields and helipads currently active and practicable.
ENAC investigation status. The status of ongoing ENAC (National Civil Aviation Authority) enquiries will be indicated if not yet completed. Pilots and operators will therefore be able to follow the progress of ENAC enquiries and access the data and information of the infrastructures for which ENAC has given Avioportolano authorisation to publish.
Plates and Avioportolano data sheets. The publication on the AAI portal of the plates and data sheet concerning the registered airfields produced by Avioportolano is temporarily suspended in order to carry out the necessary updates.
Updates to navigation software. The plates and data sheets produced by Avioportolano currently present on Sky Demon, Air Navigation Pro, Airmate, Foreflight, Garmin Pilot and RoketRoute will be updated with the entry into force of the 06/2024 amendment and will therefore be available for consultation from 13 June 2024.
@Peter it seems the link embedded in the text copied from my email in the above text works, without using the forum’s “link” markers, interesting!
It‘s not a PN, it is always a permission. But that of course was also the case with the previous regulation. It‘s private land after all.
As long as it can remain only a PN.
Some central actor like AOPA Italy should do a central webform for all where you fill all the needed informations and just select the aviosuperficie in question.
No idea why it says so. ENAC is the party for which the information is collected.
Here is another aviosuperficie that has a detailed form for every flight, and the pilot has to await conformation after sending the form. At least this is a webform. The „briefing package“ is a mere 21 pages. Worse than some UK airfields…
Here is another airfield that uses essentially the same form as Bedizzole. It seems to be becoming some sort of standard used by many airfields.
so if I get this correctly, the purpose of this form is to satisfy the customs and tax authorities.
Crazy bureaucratic. That makes it next to impossible to do a spontaneous trip in Italy, except going to certified airfields like Aosta, Bolzano, Venecia-Lido etc. At least on paper. On the other hand, I think that many Aviosuperificie aerodromes are still operating as before and nobody feels a change. Rules in Italy seem often made to be broken in practice.
I remember flying to Enemonzo back in 2019 with a Dimona, while this airfield is ‘only’ a “Campo Volo”. The owner was very welcoming and also registered aircrafts and gliders were stationed at that airfield. And I think there are many “Campo Volo” out there, where registered aircrafts are operating from or into.
The first impression, about two weeks after the new regulation went in force in its entirety, is that those aviosuperfici that did go (or are currently going) the extra mile to remain approved as an aviosuperficie are tighenting up on written prior notification, often via forms created for this purpose. So it is no longer ok to “just land” at an aviosuperficie, and not even ok to just phone ahead or to send a short text message. So yet more “paperwork” when flying, as expected.
Info received from aviosuperficie Bedizzole, a very well managed pearl on the western shores of Lake Garda:
And here is a preview of their form (with lots of small print…). Of course, these plain pdf forms are a pain when one is already on a trip. At least, it is translated into English. Don’t expect all other aviosuperfici to be as well prepared as this one.
Anyway, other (previously approved) aviosuperfici may well not currently „exist“ any more at all. So check in advance if you want to use one.
Dan wrote:
True, but also not to be overrated. Club is the correct name in this caseNonetheless, I do have the feeling that the Swiss Aeroclub does get things done, has a decent connection to Swiss politics, and can present results, while AOPA Switzerland seems a bit “fürig”.
In many areas they are uniting quite well.
FFPLUM is part of a European wide and indeed worldwide lobbying organisation.
I think it goes under European Sports Aviation. The FFA may also be a member of this as well as other European wide aviation groups dealing with club and light ga.
The difficulty is and always has been, that what suits one group of pilots does not suit another ie something that suits an organisation of clubs might well not be agreeable to an owner’s group.
So uniting is not the problem but unity is.
