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Aztec G-BKJW July 2023 - three people arrested

The guy that chartered it is probably dead.

One can work out who two of them are from a quick look online but it doesn’t explain the charge. To me, none of this hangs together unless it was a severe maintenance issue, and this is rarely prosecuted, not least because the maint business pays licensing fees to the CAA, and if the CAA started digging too deep they would lose a large chunk of revenue as well as shutting down many companies. I strongly suspect the CAA did not recover the Sala PA46 because they knew from the CO in the passenger’s recovered body that it might have revealed something which would have complicated Henderson’s prosecution.

We will probably have to wait for an AAIB report, but that will be tricky since the AAIB will be told to not do anything to frustrate a prosecution.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Yeah they don’t mess about with that

caa_prosecutions_2021_2022_pdf

(I presume that first fine is linked to income because wowza – he was fined a total of £175k in the end)

In another year someone got nailed for signing off maintenance work without appropriate licence

Funny that it’s three. Maybe the owner, the mechanic and the guy that chartered it!

[ links localised since the CAA originals expire ]

Last Edited by paleale at 19 Sep 21:14
United Kingdom

I have no knowledge of this case but with the U.K. CAA anyway it is often deliberate falsification of records that seems to lead to prosecution. I seem to recall a helicopter FI/examiner case some years back where he was prosecuted after a fatality and had falsified training records and tests for the pilot who crashed?

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Oxfordshire, United Kingdom

Peter wrote:

The one you probably have in mind is (according to Companies House) nowhere near any of those ages.

I actually did not have anyone in mind when I saw the report , however the ones I did ponder are of age..

I am just quite taken aback that the Police working with CAA and the AAIB move on a manslaughter charge. The only one I can recall is Shoreham.

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EGPF Glasgow

I posted that ASN link earlier – same one, Aztec.

North Yorkshire Police said three men aged 37, 55 and 68 were arrested on Tuesday on suspicion of manslaughter.

The one you probably have in mind is (according to Companies House) nowhere near any of those ages.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

This is it

https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/316539

The three were arrested on September 12th 2023 and includes a used aircraft dealer?

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EGPF Glasgow

I think it was. FA track:

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Got it here but that report may be inaccurate

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/three-men-arrested-manslaughter-after-30936576

That report probably used the photo of the young man involved and it looks like that airframe was not the one involved. It may well be the Aztec then.

Last Edited by BeechBaby at 19 Sep 10:21
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EGPF Glasgow

Looks the same, unless there was another crash on 6 July 2023 ?

I agree one can’t easily tell from the wreckage if it was an Aztec.

I don’t think the photo of the pilot standing next to PA38 G-CHER is related, and I find no crash report for G-CHER, which on a quick look has not flown (with Mode S) since Feb 2023.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Apparently July 6th at Thirsk. 20 year old lost his life in this accident. What drew my attention was that three arrested? When ever did that happen in the UK.

@peter. I do not think it is related to the Aztec crash. PA38 G-CHER

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Three men have been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter in connection with a plane crash in Thirsk earlier this year.

On Thursday, July 6, 2023, a plane crashed in a field near to Bagby Airport in Thirsk. The emergency services all rushed to the scene, but a man in his 20s died in the crash.

Now, three men, aged 37, 55 and 68 have been arrested. They were arrested on September 12 on suspicion of manslaughter

Last Edited by BeechBaby at 19 Sep 10:08
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EGPF Glasgow
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