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Circuit Breaker Panel is getting hot

Suggest PTFE with wire gauge adjusted for amps under min voltage (then adjust again for margin according to automotive standards). ETFE/PTFE temp diff circa 110C if my memory is correct. Good reading here:

The panel is in the plane since it's conversion in 1998. It should survive until Nov 4th, hopefully. But I won't fly across the Atlantic which I do plan for the next year. So this needs to be solved.

EDXQ

They told me to check the current draw on the thick lines. My maintenance shop did it and it was 7 resp 10 amp with air conditioner on (they were suspection the a/c). So it actually can't be an overload.

What you actually want to measure is the DC resistance of that line, it looks like a bad (high resistance) joint. 7 amps through one ohm is 49 watts of heat, 3 ohms produces 147 Watts etc.

Have you ever seen a UK 13 Amp mains plug burn up when the fuse holder oxidizes and produces a few ohms resistance!

It seems you have decided a radical and probably more long term solution.

However, diagnosis of this kind of thing is greatly aided by one of these

Thermal imaging cameras

Darley Moor, Gamston (UK)

Yeah but looks promising. I made a typo above, it will take 1-2 days, not weeks...

EDXQ

That's a very good decision! Just be careful... there's many different "German Standards" too :-))

The panel will be rewired and upgraded from American O&N to German standard. ;-) Takes 1-2 weeks and will be performed by Airplus @ Friedrichshafen.

Thanks for all your comments!

EDXQ

I agree, and to add that this department is safety-critical because some of the wiring is unprotected i.e. a short to the airframe and you probably have a fire. Only wires downstream of circuit breakers (or fuses) are protected from a short circuit.

Anyway, it is a great excuse to knock up a new CB panel, with nice custom engraved labels

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom

Without having the knowledge Peter has I would say that this is such a sensitive area that I would not spare any expense to get this done perfectly. You do not want to fly a turbine aircraft with such a problem. This will probably cost you some money, but THIS is really worth it, I think

I can see why they might want to rewire the whole panel...

  • revenue generation
  • warranty liability (if you just fix one thing, and something else packs up?)
  • the inline fuses are a bodge which has no place in an aircraft (they should be properly mounted CBs or fuseholders)
  • the heat may be generated in multiple places
  • there might be faulty CBs, with bad contacts which are generating heat

I would re-do the whole thing too.

Aircraft CBs are not the best quality products and do degrade over time; I think because they run pretty warm all the time anyway.

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Shoreham EGKA, United Kingdom
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