This does not look good for a “bapteme de l’air” flight…
gallois wrote:
I have never heard of a Robin D140.
My bad, I corrected the post.
gallois wrote:
A week or so ago the talk of the club was of a D140 having crashed killing all on board in the East of France.
I called up the BEA site and looked for Jodel D140. There are fortunately no other crashes listed which have fatalities, only a few bent airplanes.
I found this however:
The pilots appear to have been known very well, which would correspond to your statement that
gallois wrote:
He will be a sad loss to French aerobatics as I believe he had been both a World and European champion.
I suppose that may be the accident the people at the club were referring to. Not a Jodel however but an aerobatic prototype.
The massif de Belledone seems to be a real GA cemetery…
Ok I understand now. I would normally refer to that as a DR420🙂 More a 2+2 than a 4 place.
The D140 is a 5 seater in most configurations.
Other than the Ambassador (same family) and the Piper Aztec AFAIK the Mousequetaire is the only other aircraft that has a useful load the same or more than its empty weight.
These days they are quite rare, and reports of one going down on 21st May when we had been discussing a similar accident in a similar pretty rare aircraft in the same area of France, one week, prior to this, I just find a coincidence. Or is it déja vu?
Please give me & MD a doubt, we are referring to Robin DR400-120 (Robin not Jodel) that crashed near Arcachon fully loaded 4pob and 120hp engine…
The D140 is known for its load carrying capabilities.
I have never heard of a Robin D140.
The Mousquetaire is a Jodel. They are used a lot in mountain aeroclubs and have an excellent safety record. Plus there are not that many around these days, which is why my surprise that there should be 2 sumilar accidents in the same region with weeks of each other.
Can a D140 carry that many people?
It’s one of few aircraft that can carry their weight as useful load (unlike DR-120 with 4pob), the flight sadly had kids on it, but no idea about performance or balance, better to wait for the report…
Ibra wrote:
full family of 4 pax, including kids, plus pilot in D140
Can a D140 carry that many people?
I seem to recall some other accidents during those “bapteme de l’air” in recent years using similar airplanes. Systematical problem behind all of them?
Very sad, the local news talks about crash 7nm north east of the runway during “bapteme de l’air” with full family of 4 pax, including kids, plus pilot in D140, really awful !
It appears to be a new accident indeed.
https://aviation-safety.net/wikibase/278296
I can’t find another D140 crash within 2022 in France on ASN, but there was a Robin DR-400-120 which crashed on April 10th in Saint-Brieuc Airfield with 3 fatalities
(aircraft type corrected)
